419664 - Download manager feels wrong in windows, e.g right click shouldn't be used for everything

Status: VERIFIED WONTFIX

(Toolkit :: Downloads API, enhancement)

Description

[Damian Shaw [Quan]]

Removing any kind of menu bar or app bar makes the download manager look very un-windows like. It seems like an unneeded GUI change when theirs an emphases on OS integration.

Right click is supposed to bring up contextual options, when you currently right click on any download an option you get it:

"Clear list"

This is clearly a global function for the download manager and needs to be presented as such in some menu / app / tool bar.

Comment 1

[Steve England [:stevee]]

This is just a dupe of bug 400495 right?

Comment 2

[Damian Shaw [Quan]]

Only if bug 400495 makes the download manager look like it belongs in windows for windows again and not a mac application on windows. I was really just giving an example with "Clear list".

Comment 3

[Jesse Ruderman]

I don't think it's "un-Windows-like" for a subwindow to lack a menubar.  It's just wrong (on all platforms) to have non-contextual commands (only) in a context menu.

Comment 4

[Damian Shaw [Quan]]

I'd agree with you when a subwindow is obviously a subwindow, but many times I have the download window open without the main Firefox window open and it looks in place in Firefox 2. Normal application subwindows are not normally open without their parent right behind them, so it look normal, they also usually keep the graphical style theme of the parent window, so again look o.k.

I no longer keep the download window open, because it neither looks like it belongs to the Firefox main window, nor does it look at home on my desktop sitting on its own.

If most people don't think this, fair enough, I felt fairly strongly about how poor it looks and I know people who agree it doesn't look windows-like. But if the majority like it, fair enough.

Comment 5

[Ryan A. C.]

Attachment: Add-ons-like UI for download manager

These 2 have a somewhat similar appearance and purpose, so they should behave similarly as well IMO.

Comment 6

[Damian Shaw [Quan]]

To validate this bug, I would like to make some key points on why it "feels" wrong.

[*] No frame
[*] No buttons
[*] Global function in context menu
[*] No visual representation between columns or rows

All of the above I'd expect to see in any Windows app. Even if the representation between the columns or rows are made in the frame.

Comment 7

[Mike Connor [:mconnor]]

I don't agree that this is needed.  The frame isn't exactly useful, the buttons you're suggesting are a) the double click action and b) secondary actions, global functions absolutely exist in many apps (i.e. Select All is a global function, there's a few other important ones that I enumerated in the clear list bug), and the visual distinctions between rows matters, but not columns, already exist.

Comment 8

[Damian Shaw [Quan]]

I don't agree with most of your logic there, but I think this bug is invalid now as most the issues are resolved. 

I will make another bug about it not feeling very native inside windows as it has no proper frame, but that would of been fixed in bug 429862 but not activity on it recently :=/