423675 - [sq] Webservices for Firefox 3 Albanian

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: sq / Albanian, defect)

Description

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

We didn't have Albanian for a while, it seems, so we need to figure out our web services story from scratch. http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox_web_services_guidelines has some guidelines on what we're doing, and why.

Mic, Besnik, any ideas?

Here's the status quo:

Search (en-US plus sq.wikipedia): 
google
yahoo
amazondotcom
wikipedia-sq
answers
creativecommons
eBay

Readers: en-US defaults
Protocol handlers: en-US defaults, so far 30 boxes.

Comment 1

[Besnik Bleta]

I've addressed some of the issues a week or two ago, in an email to Mic.
I've have finished the localization of Remember the Milk, which is waiting fixing for date format, but otherwise would go live any time now. And I'm in the middle of localization of Miro player and web site. Failed attempt to get approval to translate Bloglines. Perhaps going Netvibes would be a choice. BBC has a localized feed for Albanian.

So far, as an update to the status described in the last email to Mic.

Comment 2

[Mic Berman]

hi Besnik, i am a bit confused about what you are up to with respect to in-product pages and web services

in product pages and the getting started page is one thing. that's a new page for Firefox 3 where we can look for local services 

web services is above in comment #0

so what i understand currently is the list in comment #0 is not changed yet and is what we'd launch with? and getting started page i really am not sure what you are working on there. please advise

Comment 3

[Besnik Bleta]

Yes, web services is my main concern, as far as in-product pages are mere translating, nothing new with that. The issues start with web service, as most of the options have no sq locale. I just forwarded our messages to Pike.

I think the most viable solution is using sq version of whatever link they would put into FF3, if such version exist, and leave en-US default for the rest.

Comment 4

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Let me take a stab at clarification here:

When Mic and I talk about localizing web services, we talk about localizing the links to those webservices inside Firefox, in particular, in choosing the right values for the stuff in region.properties. And picking the right search engines.

What I read that Besnik is talking about is actually localizing those webservices, i.e., bringing up an Albanian version of rememberthemilk. That's cool and good, of course, but not subject of this bug, or part of the things that we want to track for the Firefox 3 release.

Does that make sense?

Comment 5

[Mic Berman]

to try and further explain
for search engines you can use the en-US defaults i.e., Google, Yahoo, Creative Commons, Answers, Amazon, eBay, Wikipedia
however it may be that for Albanian there is a better local option of, for example, a shopping search engine. or maybe Amazon does work in Albania?

for RSS readers en-US defaults are Bloglines, Google Reader and My Yahoo. Often I find in L10n that Netvibes has a version in the local language so we can swap e.g., Bloglines for Netvibes IF it's in Albanian

for live bookmark - RSS feed - again there may be a more relevant local source of information for users other than BBC in your language. 

so all that to say, are there any of these services above that you could suggest for Albania?
thanks :)

Comment 6

[Besnik Bleta]

Axel,

There is no misunderstanding from my part. Just wanted to let you know what we had discussed with Mic in the past weeks, as a reminder for Mic, but as an update for you as well.

Mic,

I was promised a more detailed response about the alternatives. I'm assuming that it came with your #5 comment.


Google and Wikipedia should top the list. For the rest I prefer the en-US defaults. 
 

Comment 7

[Mic Berman]

Besnik - thanks, there is not ordering  with respect to "should top the list". we order in Google and then alphabetically. so ok for me for search and rest. 

Comment 8

[Mic Berman]

just to reconfirm, Besnik you are ok with en-US defaults which are:

search: Google, Yahoo, Answers, Amazon, CC, eBay, Wikipedia
live bookmark: BBC
RSS readers: Google, MyYahoo!, Bloglines
mailto: Gmail, Yahoo!
webcal: Google Calendar, Yahoo!, 30boxes

are you sure there isn't a better for example, Albanian language news feed? i'm ok with BBC but it's en English so maybe we can opt for a source in your language?

Comment 9

[Besnik Bleta]

Mic,

We can use http://www.bbc.co.uk/albanian/ instead of http://www.bbc.co.uk/, can't we?

The rest is OK, we've got sq for Wikipedia. From all you mention, only BBC and Wikipedia have a sq option.

Comment 10

[Mic Berman]

Besnik
for sure we can use bbc.co.uk/albanian - we will have to make a server side change - right Axel?

ok on rest

thanks for confirmation. 

Comment 11

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Besnik, we'd like to have a mailto option still, could you attach a patch to include yahoo mail? It should look like http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=/mozilla/browser/locales/en-US/chrome/browser-region/region.properties&rev=&cvsroot=/cvsroot&mark=20-34, including the bumped defaultHandlersVersion to 1.

(And yes, please put the feed for Albanian on my list.)

Comment 12

[Besnik Bleta]

Axel,

I committed the updated region.properties to follow your suggestion. It does not differ from original en-US file.

Regarding the feed, is this one what you're asking for:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/albanian/index.xml         ? 

Comment 13

[Mic Berman]

that feed looks good, thanks. 
i beleive axel plans to file one IT server side bug for all changes so he would add this to that when he creates it. 

Comment 14

[Mic Berman]

can we close this now?

Comment 15

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

IMHO, we can close this bug, please get a separate bug on file for the feed? That's working on a slightly different timeline, as it's just a server-side change.

The reference is http://hg.mozilla.org/users/axel_mozilla.com/l10n-src-verification/index.cgi/file/c160f8c2ddf6/reference/HEAD/sq/.

Comment 16

[Mic Berman]

created new bug for feed change, bug 428374