425052 - backup and then reimage xserve04

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(mozilla.org Graveyard :: Server Operations, task)

Description

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

We've recently mothballed xserve04. 

1) Can we take a full image of this machine, just in case we need to un-mothball and revive it for some (unforeseen) reason?

2) After backing up, can you reimage xserve04 to be identical to bm-xserve03 or bm-xserve05? We'd like to have bm-xserve04 be available as a ready-to-use spare.

Comment 1

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

fyi: bm-xserve03 (in bug#391742) and bm-xserve05 (in bug#391498) were both imaged from bm-xserve02... in case that helps.

Comment 2

[matthew zeier [:mrz]]

You have two master images - one that's called bm-xserve05 and one from 10 (this one is the most recent).

Comment 3

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

XSERV04 imaged.  Currently restoring from bm-server10 image.  I'm going to let it run through the night.

Comment 4

[Justin Fitzhugh]

whats the status on this?

Comment 5

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

The first couple of attempts to image didn't work.  The server would not detect the drives after the restore.  I had to blow away the RAID and install from CD.  I left the restore from PPC 10.4 running over night.

Comment 6

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

This box doesn't seem to like any of the images I've put on there.  I'm getting the big red cross when I reboot after the PPC image.

Comment 7

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

Can you image from bm-xserve03 / bm-xserve05 directly onto bm-xserve04? 

Comment 8

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

bm-serve03 was image with the same image that I have been trying to put on xserve04.  I can try to take an image of bm-xserve05, but I will need to take it down for about 2 hours to take the image.

Comment 9

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

Can I take down bm-xserve03 or bm-xserve05 tonight to take any image?

Comment 10

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

I rebuilt this server from the install 10.4.7 disc.
IP: 10.2.71.35

It is also attached to console port 4

Comment 11

[Justin Fitzhugh]

Think this is done.  reopen if there is anymroe work.

Comment 12

[Nick Thomas [:nthomas] (UTC+12)]

Please turn VNC on and set the password to the standard value for cltbld. Then we can try to figure out if there is some hardware difference that prevents the image of xserve03 from being applied.

Comment 13

[matthew zeier [:mrz]]

Should be something you guys can do - 

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071024123234595
http://www.macgeekery.com/tips/cli/setting_remote_desktops_vnc_password_in_terminal 

The quick version of those two sites is to run:

cd /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resource
./kickstart -configure -clientopts -setvncpw -vncpw PASSWORD

Comment 14

[matthew zeier [:mrz]]

Punting back over the fence.  You should have all you need in this.

Comment 15

[Nick Thomas [:nthomas] (UTC+12)]

(In reply to comment #13)
> Should be something you guys can do - 
> 
> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071024123234595
> http://www.macgeekery.com/tips/cli/setting_remote_desktops_vnc_password_in_terminal 
> 
> The quick version of those two sites is to run:
> 
> cd /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resource
> ./kickstart -configure -clientopts -setvncpw -vncpw PASSWORD

Thanks but the usual build accounts don't seem to be setup.  

Comment 17

[matthew zeier [:mrz]]

> Thanks but the usual build accounts don't seem to be setup.  

cltbld works. 

Keep in mind that the ref images don't have your new passwords so you'll need to use the old one (or eventually update the reference images).

Comment 18

[Nick Thomas [:nthomas] (UTC+12)]

Sorry, typos defeated me.

Comment 19

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

(In reply to comment #17)
> > Thanks but the usual build accounts don't seem to be setup.  
> 
> cltbld works. 
> 
> Keep in mind that the ref images don't have your new passwords so you'll need
> to use the old one (or eventually update the reference images).
> 
(confused) Comment#10 says this machine was built from fresh OS install, not built from a refimage. If a refimage was used, which refimage?

Comment 20

[matthew zeier [:mrz]]

That is very true and I have no idea who created the accounts but unless Phong created cltbld, I'm assuming Build did since no one else knows your passwords.  

Comment 21

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

Phong, can you clarify how this was setup?

Comment 22

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

Some other woes from offline emails with Nick. I'd guess that bm-xserve04 needs a little TLC.

[snip]
I tried to get onto this machine with VNC but something is not right with the config - "Connection terminated - Please configure Apple Remote Desktop to allow VNC Viewers to control the screen. Unknown authType 30" from Chicken of the VNC.

I've run 
 cd /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources
 sudo ./kickstart -configure -clientopts -setvncpw -vncpw <the-current-VNC-password-in-plain>

(NB the p/w should not be in plain but encoded, so it's incorrectly set at the moment. I believe this is independent of the error above).

Also tried
 sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/\
 ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources/kickstart -activate \
 -configure -access -on -restart -agent -privs -all
and got
 Starting...
 Created preference to start ARD after reboot.
 Stopped ARD Helper.
 Stopped ARD Agent.
 Stopped VNC Server.
 cltbld: Set user remote control privileges.
 cltbld: Set user remote access.
 Started ARD Agent.
 Done.

And tried
 sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/\
 ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources/kickstart -configure \                                   
 -allowAccessFor -allUsers -privs -all
and got
 Unknown option: allowaccessfor
 Unknown option: allusers
 Starting...
 cltbld: Set user remote control privileges.
 Done.

Still no joy from the Chicken after that, possibly it needs a reboot.
[snip]

Comment 23

[matthew zeier [:mrz]]

Your client sucks :)

Using OSX 10.5's VNC client, I was able to connect as cltbld (using the old cltbld password).  Reset VNC password to the new.  VNC was also checked as disabled so I enabled it.  

Tested with Vine Viewer.

I thought 10.5's VNC client only worked with 10.5 machines, guess not.  Good to know though!

Tossing back to you - don't think there's anything else for us to do.

Comment 24

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

In reply to comment #23)
> Your client sucks :)
err.. Nick's client sucks?! :-) Not sure if some of the install working Nick did fixed VNC or not, but at least now Armen and Nick can VNC to the machine.

> 
> Tossing back to you - don't think there's anything else for us to do.
>
We're still uncomfortable using this machine in production, because its imaged from a CD install, and would require significant manual setup, whereas cloned from an already-configured-and-online build machine is much safer. 

From comments above, it seems that cloning from bm-xserve03 to bm-xserve04 didnt work, which is still a mystery. Imaging from intel-based bm-xserve10 is not expected to work on PPC-based bm-xserve04. 

fyi: I also just verified that bm-xserve01, 02, 03, 04, 05 all have the same bios (517f2). The only differences I could spot across the 5 machines was that bm-xserve05 has a slightly different CPU (PowerPC G5 3.1) compared to the others (PowerPC G5 3.0), and bm-xserve05 has different ram (2GB) compared to the others (4GB). 

Can you try cloning from bm-xserve02 or bm-xserve05 onto bm-xserve04?

Comment 25

[matthew zeier [:mrz]]

(In reply to comment #24)
> In reply to comment #23)
> > Your client sucks :)
> err.. Nick's client sucks?! :-) Not sure if some of the install working Nick
> did fixed VNC or not, but at least now Armen and Nick can VNC to the machine.

Probably largely a result of me turning VNC on!

However with it turned off, like I mentioned, I was able to use OSX 10.5's built in VNC client and log into (desktop sharing).

Comment 26

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

(In reply to comment #24)
> In reply to comment #23)
> We're still uncomfortable using this machine in production, because its imaged
> from a CD install, and would require significant manual setup, whereas cloned
> from an already-configured-and-online build machine is much safer. 
> 


> Can you try cloning from bm-xserve02 or bm-xserve05 onto bm-xserve04?
> 
Phong, can you try this and let us know what happens?

Comment 27

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

can I take this server down right now?

Comment 28

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

You can take down bm-xserve03 and bm-xserve04 whenever when you are ready. 

Comment 29

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

I will take care of it this weekend.  I will be on vacation next week so I will try to get this done before I leave.

Comment 30

[Phong Tran [:phong]]

bm-xserve04 has been imaged from bm-xserve03.  I don't have the new cltbld password to logon and change the name and IP.  I've attached it to console port 4.

Comment 31

[Nick Thomas [:nthomas] (UTC+12)]

That's great news! mrz, anything need finishing off before handing us the keys ?

Comment 32

[matthew zeier [:mrz]]

Nope, all yours.