Closed Bug 443379 Opened 16 years ago Closed 16 years ago

[th] RSS Sample feed for Thai

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(Mozilla Localizations :: th / Thai, defect)

defect
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normal

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(Not tracked)

RESOLVED FIXED

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(Reporter: Pike, Assigned: Pike)

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Our goal for including an RSS feed in the live bookmark is to demonstrate dynamic, changing and relevant content. We would suggest you choose something your users are interested in and that is locally relevant. By default this is the same as en-US, which is BBC news.

Isriya, do you have any suggestions? Gen?

The implementation is done via a change of the redirect on mozilla.com, and is a server-side change only.
Just for reference. 

Previous discussion on this issue (in Thai) http://code.google.com/p/thai-l10n/issues/detail?id=68
Component: Other → th / Thai
QA Contact: thai.th
Isriya is the conclusion http://thainews.prd.go.th/index_main.php

I am sorry I can't read your language so I want to be sure and I'm not clear on if they suggest the link above or bbc

if you can confirm that'd be great. thanks
Blocks: fx3-l10n-th
Mic,

I think the best choice is RSSThai. The URL is http://www.rssthai.com/rss/lastest.xml
I think RSSThai feed is a good choice for demonstrating Live Bookmark feature. However, RSSThai itself aggregates feeds/web pages from several new sources and adds their own ads on top of them. For example, see http://www.rssthai.com/reader.php?t=it&r=11558 which is linked from the RSSThai feed. You can see that RSSThai's ad is layered on top of original content from http://www.arip.co.th/2006/news.php?id=407531.

In my opinion, choosing a feed from a non-profit news agency is a better choice. The problem is most Thai news agencies don't have their content in RSS/Atom format. In case they have feeds, they don't have unified feeds like BBC's. For example, MCOT (a non-profit news agency, their home page is at http://news.mcot.net/) has several feeds for respective coverages (Politics, Social, etc.) but doesn't have a unified feed.

In conclusion, I think if non-profit aspect of the feed is the top priority, we should choose the best available feed from a non-profit agency such as social news feed from MCOT (http://news.mcot.net/news_rss/social.xml) but if commercialization of other news sources is not an issue, RSSThai feed should be fine.
I'm explicitly not-for RSSThai, for the reason Phisit has shown in Comment #4.

Even worse, it uses Flash for its ads, for example, see source of:
http://www.rssthai.com/reader.php?t=local&r=11561

Apart from the for-profit or non-profit concern, it is also a question if this (get somebody else's content and put an ad layer on top) is a good practice or not. And by endorsing this practice, choosing it as a default feed, does Mozilla explicitly, by action, supports this kind of practice ??

So I'm not-for RSSThai for these reasons:
1) for-profit
2) bandwidth/performance/third-party plugin dependency (Flash)
3) practice of "content hi-jacking"
I think RSSThai is the most practical choice available. We can't do anything with MCOT feed. No one is interested in 'Social' section news. I tried contact them both email and phone but got no response.

The other solution is using BBC like the en-US.
given what Arthit described in comment #5 abotu RSSThai and that no one has responded to Iriya from comment #6 I'd suggest we go with BBC as the news is in Thai language and changes often so as to demonstrate the feature.

we do not need to get explicit permission from them so we can easily go ahead
(In reply to comment #7)
> given what Arthit described in comment #5 abotu RSSThai and that no one has
> responded to Iriya from comment #6 I'd suggest we go with BBC as the news is in
> Thai language and changes often so as to demonstrate the feature.
> 
> we do not need to get explicit permission from them so we can easily go ahead
> 

Agree with Mic, we can go with BBC.
PS: Technical nit: I haven't found a feed validator that liked the rssthai.com feed, just the encoding alone seemed to be alienating. Can't really say anything on the technical part of that because of that. Commercial or not isn't really a criteria for Mozilla here, but the way rssthai does it isn't really appealing to me.

As for BBC, that doesn't come in the thai language, but it has news from the region on http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_world_edition/asia-pacific/rss.xml, is that OK?
here's a url but not sure if the news is about Thailand or just news in Thai
http://www.bbc.co.uk/thai/
and I'm assuming there is a feed somewhere to that source url
(In reply to comment #10)
> here's a url but not sure if the news is about Thailand or just news in Thai
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/thai/
> and I'm assuming there is a feed somewhere to that source url

BBC Thai service has already been terminated since 2006 :(

The suggested asia-pacific feed in comment #9 is probably the closest on BBC.
ok, thanks, so let's go with Pike's suggestion from Comment #9 as best alternative
can arthit or pike provide me the right url (sorry) i can't seem to find the asia pacific feed from this page http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/languages/
(In reply to comment #13)
> can arthit or pike provide me the right url (sorry) i can't seem to find the
> asia pacific feed from this page http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/languages/
> 

Mic, this URL - http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_world_edition/asia-pacific/rss.xml
thank you
axel - added to spreadsheet for tracking
Taking, this is a server-side change on us now.
Assignee: nobody → l10n
Depends on: 460084
The IT bug has been fixed. http://fxfeeds.mozilla.com/th/firefox/headlines.xml
should point to http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_world_edition/asia-pacific/rss.xml

Marking as fixed. Please verify if it's OK.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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