Too large character spacing with font "Segoe UI" between two "m"s without ClearType

VERIFIED INVALID

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VERIFIED INVALID
11 years ago
11 years ago

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(Reporter: stefan.roeck, Unassigned)

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Description

11 years ago
User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1

The space between two m's in an Input field is too large. It looks like if one entered a blank between both letters.
This seems only happen with Firefox (2 or 3), but not with Internet Explorer or Safari. The font "Segoe UI" must be installed (comes with Office 2007, i think). 

Additionally, if the ClearType font adaption in Windows is enabled, this bug also doesn't ocurr.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
Use this snippet to see the described effect:
<html>
<head/>
<body>
<input type="text" autocomplete="off" maxlength="100" style='font-family: "Segoe UI"; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; width: 142px; height: 24px;'/>
</body>
</html>

Comment 1

11 years ago
Created attachment 331034 [details]
IE vs. Firefox: Segoe UI, no CT

> This seems only happen with Firefox (2 or 3), but not with Internet Explorer

From my screenshot, it seems IE and Firefox are behaving identically here with CT is disabled.  Remember that IE7, by default, does not respect system font settings and will, by default, turn on ClearType even when ClearType is not enabled on the system.  When you say that IE looks different, did you forget to turn off IE7's ClearType?

> Additionally, if the ClearType font adaption in Windows is enabled, this bug
> also doesn't ocurr.

Segoe UI, along with a bunch of the C* fonts introduced in Vista are ClearType-only fonts, and they all look absolutely terrible without ClearType, and the spacing between 'm' characters are probably the least of your worries if you use one of these fonts without CT.  They simply aren't meant to be used without ClearType.

Updated

11 years ago
Summary: To large character spacing with font "Segoe UI" between two "m"s → Too large character spacing with font "Segoe UI" between two "m"s without ClearType
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Comment 2

11 years ago
Hi, you're right, IE behaves the same if I switch CT off (I didn't know there there is an additional settings which overrides the system-wide setting - that's IE...).

I close this bug as invalid. Thanks for your assistance.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 11 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID

Updated

11 years ago
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
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