480268 - Shortcut for the Activity Manager window

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Thunderbird :: Mail Window Front End, enhancement)

Description

[Dirk-Willem van Gulik]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011912 Firefox/3.0.6
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090218 Thunderbird/3.0b2

Shortcut request: in order to facilitate migration from Mail.app - add the 'applekey + 0' (cmd+0) as a short cut for the Activity Manager window.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
na
Actual Results:  
na

Expected Results:  
na

Comment 1

[Dan Mosedale (:dmosedale, :dmose)]

For OS X, this sounds like the right thing to me.  Reassigning to clarkbw for his opinion.

Comment 2

[David Ascher (:davida)]

cmd-0 is reset zoom to default.

I'm not convinced we need a keyboard shortcut for that window, certainly not a "precious" one like cmd-<X>.  I'm not sure what criteria we should use for those keyboard shortcuts, but I know that I've lived long enough to regret handing them out early =).

Comment 3

[Dirk-Willem van Gulik]

Note that this is _macosx_ specific; and that a lot of Mail.App users have this specific shortcut already in their fingers to check what (on earth) their mail is doing. Various other apps are also using the cmd-0 for such a status display (and cmd-1 for the primary window).

I noticed that from user-acceptance testing that the current cmd-0 in Firefox causes (quite literally) frowned eyebrows with MacOS X users. And we observe them, even in Safari!, to expect cmd-0 to give them the download list - when we artificially bring them in a position where they wonder what is slowing them down when going through guided tasks - and feel they need to investigate.

Comment 4

[Dan Mosedale (:dmosedale, :dmose)]

The use case where this comes in super-handy on OS X is when Mail.app is trying to do too many tasks at once and stalls out.  This tends to happen when it's trying to sync with the server and/or index, and having a keystroke that can bring up the activity manager while the system is too loaded to render menus with any sort of speed is a godsend.  Given all the new autosync & gloda functionality, I predict there are going to be evil edge cases of this nature that we don't find before Tb3 ships where this will make users' lives a bit less painful.

Comment 6

[Mark Banner (:standard8)]

Making this be cross-platform - if we're going to add it in one place we may as well add it in all.

Comment 7

[Bryan Clark (DevTools PM) [:clarkbw]]

I shouldn't be the assignee for these bugs.  Filter against clarkbfilter to delete all these from your emails.

Comment 8

[Thomas D. (:thomas8)]

This bug isn't actionable.
I propose wontfix for this bug.

Current behaviour (all OS, both TB and FF)
  Ctrl/Cmd+0 -> Reset Zoom (for TB, in msg reader only, I'll file a bug 4 that)

Behaviour proposed by this bug (MAC only)
  Cmd+0 -> Activity Manager Window

And then what?
- Suppose we'd do cmd+0 for mac only, what's the new shortcut for "Reset Zoom" then? (incomplete)
- Have different shortcuts on different OS? (bad, wontfix)
- Have different shortcuts for zoom on TB vs. FF? (bad, wontfix)

- Activity manager is far from useful representation of all tasks going on in TB.
- You cannot cancel any tasks from activity manager, or can you?
- Activity manager is certainly not a tool for Joe General User (and even as an advanced user, personally I'm not using it at all)
- Shortcuts are a precious commodity, especially given that we have no in-built way of customizing them (and so far, no acceptable cross-platform shortcut has been proposed here)

I conclude:
- this bug does not have a working/acceptable UI proposal
- it's arguably not very useful, and only for a minority of users
- it's thus imo certainly not worth sacrificing a keyboard shortcut for that
- it can easily by done by an extension, or even just customization using existing Keyconfig Addon

==> imo, this bug should be closed wontfix.

Comment 9

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin]]

I'd tend to agree.
->WONTFIX