480373 - Redirects from Mozilla.com to MozillaMessaging.com

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

Description

[Steven Garrity [:sgarrity]]

Now that the new MozillaMessaging.com site is live, we can setup redirects for the key Thunderbird pages on Mozilla.com to the corresponding pages MozillaMessaging.com. Here's a list from rebron:

http://getthunderbird.com -> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/thunderbird/ -> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/thunderbird/features.html -> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/features/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes/ -> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html -> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html

Please double-check with rebron before actually going to production with this.

Comment 1

[Rafael Ebron (:rebron)]

We want to do this tomorrow morning around 10am PST.

Comment 2

[John Slater]

Steven, can you add the appropriate class=external arrows to the various links on Mozilla.com...probably should indicate that people will be leaving the site now.

Thanks!

Comment 3

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

Attachment: add redirects

> http://getthunderbird.com -> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

This redirect is something IT will have to do.  CCing oremj.

The other redirects are in the patch.  I modified them slightly to support any locale on the mozilla.com side and do locale detection on the mozillamessaging side (see patch for details).  Let me know if that's not desired.

There are also a lot of existing pages for thunderbird on moz.com  What's the plan for those.  Will they all be migrated?

> Please double-check with rebron before actually going to production with this.

Giving us a half day notice is already pretty short.  Rebron:  if you want this please a+ this bug asap.

Comment 4

[Reed Loden [:reed]]

(In reply to comment #3)
> > http://getthunderbird.com -> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
> 
> This redirect is something IT will have to do.  CCing oremj.

It doesn't have to be done immediately, as it will get redirected there anyway if you do the http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/thunderbird/ ->
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/ redirect. However, just file an IT bug for that, and somebody can get to it.

Comment 5

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

> Giving us a half day notice is already pretty short.  Rebron:  if you want this
> please a+ this bug asap.

(In reply to comment #1)
> We want to do this tomorrow morning around 10am PST.

Comments came in while I was making the patch; didn't see your comment when I posted that.

Comment 6

[Rafael Ebron (:rebron)]

Comment on attachment 364400 [details] [diff] [review]
add redirects

Shouldn't these urls be with en-US/

Comment 7

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

(In reply to comment #0)
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes/ ->
> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes/

Are you going to be maintaining release notes for minor versions going forward even though the Mozilla Corporation is still doing them? If not, I either need access to mozillamessaging.com or this should remain on mozilla.com.

Comment 8

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

I'd also note that we need to make sure the redirect is correct for beta versions going forward.

Comment 9

[Rafael Ebron (:rebron)]

I would prefer to host on mozillamessaging.com.  We can get you access or we can put it up for you, either way.

Comment 10

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

(In reply to comment #6)
> (From update of attachment 364400 [details] [diff] [review])
> Shouldn't these urls be with en-US/
That's the locale detection I mentioned in comment 3

(In reply to comment #8)
> I'd also note that we need to make sure the redirect is correct for beta
> versions going forward.
I didn't add any future-proof URLs.  I assumed they would be maintained at mozillamessaging.com from now on.

Comment 11

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

(In reply to comment #10)
> (In reply to comment #8)
> > I'd also note that we need to make sure the redirect is correct for beta
> > versions going forward.
> I didn't add any future-proof URLs.  I assumed they would be maintained at
> mozillamessaging.com from now on.

Then we should redirect all of /thunderbird/2.0.0.x/releasenotes so that they can maintain it on their end. As it stands now, we'll have to add a new one for each 2.0.0.x release since the URLs are hardcoded in Thunderbird (unless there's a bug to change them in Thunderbird 2, but I haven't seen one).

Comment 12

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

(And yes, that'd mean migrating all old 2.0.0.x release notes over.)

Comment 13

[Reed Loden [:reed]]

Comment on attachment 364400 [details] [diff] [review]
add redirects

Can you put these further down in .htaccess, say above the other MoMo redirects ("# Redirect the Thunderbird 3 release notes and start page to www.mozillamessaging.com")?

>+RewriteRule ^(\w{2,3}(?:-\w{2}(?:-mac)?)?/)?products/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes[/]?$ http://www.mozillamessaging.com/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes/ [R=permanent]

Temporarily, this is ok, but this isn't going to work long-term.

Again, I'll repeat what Wil said. Please give us more advanced notice for stuff like this in the future. Thanks.

Comment 14

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

Patch is on trunk, will be on stage soon.  Need QA sign off before it goes live.

Comment 15

[Stephen Donner [:stephend] Not actively reading bugmail]

1) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ doesn't redirect
2) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes/ (none of the .x URLs redirect)

Comment 16

[Stephen Donner [:stephend] Not actively reading bugmail]

3) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html doesn't redirect
4) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/index.html doesn't redirect either

Comment 17

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

(In reply to comment #15)
> 1) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ doesn't redirect

This wasn't requested.

> 2) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes/
Fixed

> 3) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html

Fixed

> 4) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/index.html

This wasn't requested.

Comment 18

[Rafael Ebron (:rebron)]

Can we get these included:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/index.html

both pointing to: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

Comment 19

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

(In reply to comment #18)
> Can we get these included:
> 
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/index.html
> 
> both pointing to: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

Added in r22748

Comment 20

[krupa raj[:krupa]]

(re Comment 3)

If I am on the page- http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html
and change the language setting to say "French", I am redirected to the Firefox 3(french) homepage instead of Thunderbird(french) homepage.

Is this the expected behavior?

Comment 21

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

It may not be what the user expects but it's not a new behavior.

Comment 22

[Rafael Ebron (:rebron)]

Stephen, can we get another look on the latest patch?

Comment 23

[Stephen Donner [:stephend] Not actively reading bugmail]

1) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ redirects to http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
2) https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/index.html redirects to http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

(Verified FIXED; will someone else mark it fixed, please?)

Comment 24

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

pushed in r22817.  Comment 2 is bug 481055.

Comment 25

[Stephen Donner [:stephend] Not actively reading bugmail]

These redirect on production just fine:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/thunderbird/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.19/releasenotes/

Doesn't redirect:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/features.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.9/releasenotes/

Should I file a new bug for the above two?  Rafael, would you mind doing that?

Comment 26

[Rafael Ebron (:rebron)]

I'll file those thanks.

Comment 27

[Stephen Donner [:stephend] Not actively reading bugmail]

Verified FIXED on production for the URLs in the first part of comment 25, plus http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html