Reduce the number of product pages

RESOLVED FIXED in 1.6

Status

www.mozilla.org
General
RESOLVED FIXED
8 years ago
5 years ago

People

(Reporter: morgamic, Assigned: mcbmoz)

Tracking

unspecified

Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)

Details

(Whiteboard: r=94017,94020,95118 b=trunk)

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(1 attachment)

(Reporter)

Description

8 years ago
We have a lot of old pages, and the only useful thing on these are release notes.

We should:
1) decommission old whatsnew, firstrun pages that belong to defunct versions
2) we should redirect these to pages that have the right info

Cases:
1) old product pages - redirect to generic "you're old" pages that encourage people to update
2) release notes - redirect all non-current versions to a single release notes archive page
I think this is a dupe of bug 431591 but if you want to avoid wading through a 30 comment bug, we can do it here too.  One of the main complaints in that bug was differentiating security vs. feature releases - I didn't think it was a big deal if your version was old anyway, but other people did.  There are a couple patches on that bug that might be helpful figuring out which releases are which.
(In reply to comment #0)
> 2) release notes - redirect all non-current versions to a single release notes
> archive page

Why? What's wrong with linking to the actual release notes? Why force users to jump through other hoops to get the release notes for a version?
(Reporter)

Comment 3

8 years ago
Because I'm not scared of long pages.  page#someversion is just as useful as someversion/page.html and with rewrites it'd be transparent.
Created attachment 487949 [details]
script to remove en-US firstrun/whatsnew pages < 3.6*
Attachment #487949 - Flags: review?

Comment 5

7 years ago
For 3.5.x and 3.6.x I have the firstrun and what's new redirecting to the ones in 3.5 and 3.6. I think that's the proper way going forward instead of having them in the latest point release.

If we delete 3.5/* and 3.6/* the current versions will break. If you notice, once I made that change I no longer copy whatsnew and firstrun into the point release directories.

If we delete any 3.5.x and 3.6.y whatsnew and firstrun it should have no impact other than cleaning up the fs.

Updated

7 years ago
Target Milestone: --- → 2.2

Updated

7 years ago
Target Milestone: 2.2 → Future

Updated

7 years ago
Assignee: nobody → cbrodigan
I love removing old pages! However, we've already removed most of these.

I removed a few more that are already redirected in trunk in r90533.

Here are the remaining firstrun/whatsnew pages for en-US:

First Run:
http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0/firstrun
http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0beta/firstrun
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6/firstrun
http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0/firstrun

What's New:
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.5.14rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/2/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.2rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0.1rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.17rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/releases/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.14rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.5.17rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.3/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.4rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.4/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.6/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/3.5.14rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/3.6.11rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.5.16rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.13rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.5.19rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.9rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.3plugin1/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.7rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0/whatsnew

I'll remove those remaining 3.*rc pages now, as they already redirect.
Removed four more that were already redirected in trunk in r90535.

This leaves:

First Run:
http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0/firstrun
http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0beta/firstrun
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6/firstrun
http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0/firstrun

What's New:
http://mozilla.com/firefox/2/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.2rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0.1rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.17rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/releases/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.14rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.3/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.4rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.4/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.6/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/3.5.14rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/3.6.11rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.13rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.9rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.3plugin1/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.7rc/whatsnew
http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0/whatsnew
(Assignee)

Comment 8

7 years ago
(In reply to comment #7)
> Removed four more that were already redirected in trunk in r90535.
> 
> This leaves:
> 
> First Run:
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0/firstrun
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0beta/firstrun
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6/firstrun
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0/firstrun
> 
> What's New:
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/2/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.2rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/4.0.1rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.17rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/releases/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.14rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.3/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.4rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.4/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.6/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/3.5.14rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/3.6.11rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.11rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.13rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.9rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.3plugin1/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/3.6.7rc/whatsnew
> http://mozilla.com/firefox/5.0/whatsnew

Steven,

This is way awesome, I'm working with the PMMs to determine the fate/future for those pages you've listed.

TX!!!

-CB
(Assignee)

Comment 9

6 years ago
Steven,

How would you like to do a little more of this stuff?!

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/lorentz/index.html  - Redirect to homepage


http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/add-ons/ebay/download.html -- Purge...but isn't that what's already happened? It's 404'ing right now, but showing up in the export.


http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/add-ons/ebay/faq.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/add-ons/ebay/features.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/add-ons/ebay/feedback/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/add-ons/ebay/index.html
Purge...but isn't that what's already happened? These are 404'ing right now, but showing up in the export.


http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox/3.6/reminderfox/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox/3.6/stumbleupon/index.html
Purge...but isn't that what's already happened? These are 404'ing right now, but showing up in the export.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/lorentz/index.html -- Redirect to homepage

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/mu-survey/index.html -- Delete.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/excitement-3.5.html (should this redirect to a different page now for 4+?) -- Delete.
Everything from comment #9 is done in trunk. Chrissie, should I leave the bug open - is there more to come?
Keywords: qawanted
Whiteboard: r94017 b=trunk
Removed a few more unused style/image files too.
Whiteboard: r94017 b=trunk → r94017, 94020 b=trunk
(Assignee)

Comment 12

6 years ago
(In reply to Steven Garrity from comment #11)
> Removed a few more unused style/image files too.

Steven,

Closing this down, and I'll open new ones as we have more opportunities to clean up. We're looking GREAT now!

Thank you
~cb
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 6 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Steven 
http://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.2rc/whatsnew/
http://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.17rc/whatsnew/

are not  deleted or redirected on stage  re-opening
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Keywords: qawanted
Resolution: FIXED → ---
(In reply to raymond [:retornam] from comment #13)
> Steven 
> http://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.2rc/whatsnew/
> http://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.17rc/whatsnew/
> are not  deleted or redirected on stage  re-opening

I'm not sure it was clear that these should be removed. Should they be?
steven, in r94017 (Comment #10) you removed the major-update survey, there was a /survey-thanks/ folder as well which was associated to this (the page displayed to thank people from taking the survey) and should be deleted too. I can do that and add the revision number to this bug if you wish.
(In reply to Pascal Chevrel:pascalc from comment #15)
> steven, in r94017 (Comment #10) you removed the major-update survey, there
> was a /survey-thanks/ folder as well which was associated to this...

Done - thanks Pascal.
Whiteboard: r94017, 94020 b=trunk → r94017, 94020, 95118 b=trunk
Are there plans to push that cleanup to production? Some of these deleted files (the ebay and survey ones) are in locales folders and I like to keep those folders as close on trunk as possible to stage and production.
(In reply to Pascal Chevrel:pascalc from comment #17)
> Are there plans to push that cleanup to production? Some of these deleted
> files (the ebay and survey ones) are in locales folders and I like to keep
> those folders as close on trunk as possible to stage and production.

Yes, we should push this to production. I've been waiting on confirmation on the question in comments #13 and comment #14. Chrissie?
Let's push this and we can file a new bug for the remaining two pages in question if they remain an issue:
> http://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.2rc/whatsnew/
> http://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.17rc/whatsnew/
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 6 years ago6 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Target Milestone: Future → 1.6
Whiteboard: r94017, 94020, 95118 b=trunk → r=94017,94020,95118 b=trunk
pushed to production r101669
Comment on attachment 487949 [details]
script to remove en-US firstrun/whatsnew pages < 3.6*

Clearing unassigned review request on fixed bug. Please file a new bug if this is somehow still an issue. Thanks!
Attachment #487949 - Flags: review?
Component: www.mozilla.org/firefox → www.mozilla.org
Product: Websites → Websites
Component: www.mozilla.org → General
Product: Websites → www.mozilla.org
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