519234 - [PFS2] Problems matching detected plugin versions with server data

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Websites :: plugins.mozilla.org, defect)

Description

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

Trying but failing to get agreement between PFS2 server data and the results found here:

http://pfs2.ozten.com/pfs2_json.html

Some plugin versions detected by the above page are blank or inconsistent with what the Tools > Addons > Plugins dialog box displays.

These plugins seem to work okay, insofar as the server data and detection results can be matched up:

* QuickTime (detected & listed match)
* Shockwave Flash (detected "10.0.32.0", listed "10.0.32.18")
* Silverlight Plug-In (detected & listed match)
* Java (version differs from respective Win/Mac plugins, but local Java runtime version matched)
* RealPlayer Version Plugin

Flash doesn't match exactly, but hopefully that's not a huge issue?

These plugins don't seem to have full versions reported, which might hamper detecting point releases for upgrades or security fixes:

* Shockwave for Director (detected "11.5" on Win, detected "11.5.1" on Mac, listed "11.5.1.601" for both)
* MetaStream (detected "3", listed "3.6.0.59")
* RealPlayer(tm) G2 LiveConnect-Enabled Plug-In (32-bit) (detected "2", listed "6.0.12.448")

Not sure if there's a way to detect more granular versions for the above.  Also, the RealPlayer case is weird but probably okay, since the correct version is detected for at least one of two plugins installed together.

These plugins have blank versions detected, but have versions listed in the dialog:

* Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library ("3.0.2.629")
* Microsoft® Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin ("1.0.0.8")
* RealJukebox ("1.0.3.448")
* Acrobat ("9.1.0.163")

I think the detection lib [1] is missing support for the above - so we'll need to come up with code for them, or drop them (for now?)

[1]: http://www.pinlady.net/PluginDetect/

Comment 1

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

Oh, since I just got RealPlayer installed on Mac, this one is detected with a blank version:

* RealPlayer Plugin.plugin

So RealPlayer can be detected on Win, but not Mac.

Comment 2

[Austin King [:ozten]]

(In reply to comment #0)
Working on the Flash issue. I'll Look at patching PluginDetect...

Comment 3

[Austin King [:ozten]]

The flash version in the movie is reported as 10.0.32.

Our page /en-US/firefox/whatsnew/ similarly looks for 10.0.32 as "up to date" without looking at a 4th component 10.0.32.18.

I'll keep poking around to see if this '18' is available.

Comment 4

[Austin King [:ozten]]

(In reply to comment #0)
RealPlayer lacks version info in the name and description properties of the navigator plugin object, so we'll need a new hook for this guy.

Comment 5

[Austin King [:ozten]]

Adobe Acrobat on Windows XP lacks version info in the name and description fields of the current plugin release.

Comment 6

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

(In reply to comment #5)
> Adobe Acrobat on Windows XP lacks version info in the name and description
> fields of the current plugin release.

Ugh.  Did a quick search, and it looks like there's a janky way to detect it with ActiveX in MSIE - but Fx is snubbed from v8 and onward

Comment 7

[Austin King [:ozten]]

Adobe Acrobat on Windows XP lacks version info in the name and description
fields of the current plugin release.

I'm still looking for an accurate way to detect this. The General technique I
see in use, is very course grained and can only detect *some* major changes,
based on the plugin name being changed between 7, 8, 9. This isn't good enough
for our purposes.

(In reply to comment #6)
Yep.

Comment 8

[Austin King [:ozten]]

I filed ASC-3854 in http://bugs.adobe.com to request version info in the description of Acrobat.

There was no Acrobat Product, so I filed in a category that other Acrobat bugs were in (ASC).

I filed it under the Security component, making the case for not being able to message users to upgrade. I don't have read access even though I created the bug, which is pretty awesome.

I linked to this bug in ASC-3854

Do we have an Adobe contacts to follow up on this issue?

Comment 9

[Austin King [:ozten]]

RealPlayer has three plugins:
1) RealPlayer Version Plugin
2) RealPlayer(tm) G2 LiveConnect-Enabled Plugin (32-bit)
3) RealJukebox NS Plugin

#1 is detected properly on Windows. It seems like the three are distributed through the same mechanism, so we can add #2 and #3 to the skip list and rely on #1 version info?

Comment 10

[Austin King [:ozten]]

Okay, Added 
Switching to use "RealPlayer Version Plugin". Added new JSON file with mime "application/vnd.rn-realplayer-javascript". Added G2 Player to the skip list.

On windows, "RealPlayer Version Plugin" now is current for 6.0.12.448.
On mac - still no detection possible.

General change also checked in r53076:
Using raw plugin name for literal and regex matching