Date column not displayed in Sent folder when I choose Received instead of Date column for Inbox

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SeaMonkey
MailNews: Message Display
8 years ago
6 years ago

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(Reporter: lemon_juice, Unassigned)

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(Whiteboard: [Halloween2011Bug]DUPEME)

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Description

8 years ago
User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 SeaMonkey/2.0.2
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

In Seamonkey 2 in the message list (Thread Pane) a new feature appeared to display a column with messages received time instead of date. When I choose to display the Received column and hide the Date column in my Inbox then the Date column disappears in the Sent folder, too. However, in subfolders of Sent the Reveiced column appears showing the value from Date. In this case the Date column should appear in the Sent folder and all its subfolders. The Received column doesn't make sense for the Sent folder and should automatically be substituted with the Date column.

Whatever columns should display in Sent also should display in Drafts. And whatever columns are displayed in Inbox should display in all other folders except Sent and Drafts - from what I see this is how it has always worked so far.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. In Seamonkey main Mail window open Inbox or any other folder except Sent and Drafts
2. In the Thread Pane, hide the Date column and show the Received column
3. Switch to the Sent or Drafts folder.
Actual Results:  
No Date column is displayed in the Sent or Drafts folder. In subfolders of Sent, the Received column is displayed.

Expected Results:  
In Send and Drafts folders the Date column should be displayed whenever the Date *or* Received column is chosen to be displayed in Inbox.

Alternatively: columns for display should be remembered separately for the Sent & Drafts folders and separately for Inbox and all other folders.

Whichever of the above is easier to implement is fine for me.

Thunderbird chose the route of remembering columns separately for each folder so this bug does not apply there. However, I would prefer Seamonkey not to follow Thunderbird in this regard, only a proper fix should be applied to handle the new Received column properly.
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Updated

8 years ago
Version: unspecified → SeaMonkey 2.0 Branch

Updated

8 years ago
Whiteboard: dupme

Comment 1

7 years ago
Where is the Problem? You can display "Received from" and "Date" and some other items as you like, but setting is is valid for all folders. Is that your problem?.
Whiteboard: dupme → dupeme
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Comment 2

7 years ago
The problem is that when I choose to display "Received" column in Inbox then there is no equivalent column with date in the Sent folder.

First, this is how settng the "Date" column works (and this is good):

1. When I display "Date" in Inbox, then "Date" is visible in Sent, too.
2. When I hide "Date" in Inbox, then "Date" gets hidden in Sent, too.

And this is how setting the "Received" column works:

1. When I display "Received" in Inbox, then "Date" is not visible in Sent (not desirable behaviour).
2. When I hide "Received" in Inbox, then "Date" is not visible in Sent (desirable behaviour).

In other words, visibility of "Date" in the Sent folder is dependent on the visibility of "Date" in Inbox, but it should also depend on the visibility of "Received" in Inbox.

I want to:
1. See "Received" in Inbox (but not "Date" because I don't need two dates to occupy my space).
2. See "Date" in Sent.

This combination seems to be impossible in SM. At least that's how it works in 2.0.x, I'm not sure if anything has changes in 2.1b.

Comment 3

7 years ago
(In reply to comment #2)
> The problem is that when I choose to display "Received" column in Inbox then
> there is no equivalent column with date in the Sent folder.
> 
> First, this is how settng the "Date" column works (and this is good):

 ACK

 
> 1. When I display "Date" in Inbox, then "Date" is visible in Sent, too.
> 2. When I hide "Date" in Inbox, then "Date" gets hidden in Sent, too.

ACK  

> And this is how setting the "Received" column works:
> 
> 1. When I display "Received" in Inbox, then "Date" is not visible in Sent (not
> desirable behaviour).
> 2. When I hide "Received" in Inbox, then "Date" is not visible in Sent
> (desirable behaviour).
> 
> In other words, visibility of "Date" in the Sent folder is dependent on the
> visibility of "Date" in Inbox, but it should also depend on the visibility of
> "Received" in Inbox.
> 
> I want to:
> 1. See "Received" in Inbox (but not "Date" because I don't need two dates to
> occupy my space).
> 2. See "Date" in Sent.
> 
"Date" displays relvant time-stramp in all folders, "Received" by definition  is not to be displayed in "Sent".  
That makes sense to me.
I have made a test:
1. Create Testmail and store it in "Drafts" "Date" 14:41
wait 
2. Open stored testmail as new 15:02 - wait
3. send it to own adress at 15:12 in Sent-folder "Date" 15:12
wait
4. Mail alert sounds 15.14 and in Inbox find testmail "Date" (and "Received") 15:12  
wait
5. move testmail to Local Folder at 15:25  "Date" (and "Received") 15:12.

"Date" displays relevant timestamp in all folders, this seems ok for me. Use "Date" in Inbox and Sent and you should have what you want. Interesting to see, that the Inbox displays the time, the mail was received at ISP-Inbox and not the download-time.

My recommendation is: Won't fix.

Build-Identifikator: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:2.0b8pre) Gecko/20101205 Firefox/4.0b8pre SeaMonkey/2.1b2pre
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Comment 4

7 years ago
> "Date" displays relvant time-stramp in all folders, "Received" by definition 
is not to be displayed in "Sent".
That makes sense to me, too, I never said I wanted "Received" to be displayed in the Sent folder. I want "Date" to be displayed there.

> Use "Date" in Inbox and Sent and you should have what you want.
No, I don't have what I want when I do that. "Date" displays the time the message was sent by the sender and can't always be relied on because it can be spoofed or someone else's clock can be off. I have had occasions when I couldn't find a new message in Inbox because it arrived with a date several years behind, or a message sits at the top because its date is somewhere next year - it has a very incorrect position when sorting by Date. That's why I want to use "Received" for Inbox because the time the message arrived at my ISP is more meaningful.

The problem is that when I display "Received" instead of "Date" in Inbox then I don't have any date column in Sent. When I enable "Date" in Sent then "Date" also is shown in Inbox - but I don't need nor want it there.

I suppose this should be a very easy fix programmatically, it's just about adding one more condition for displaying "Date" in Sent and this change shouldn't hurt anyone.

Users of other email clients like Thunderbird or Apple Mail are able to do this, can SM be not behind?

Comment 5

6 years ago
Confirming the issue, hiding Date in Inbox hides this column in Sent too
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111017 Firefox/10.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.7a1

Updated

6 years ago
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Whiteboard: dupeme → [Halloween2011Bug]DUPEME
Version: SeaMonkey 2.0 Branch → Trunk
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