Closed Bug 544002 Opened 14 years ago Closed 10 years ago

Add Firebug to the trademark list

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(www.mozilla.org :: Pages & Content, defect)

defect
Not set
normal

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(Not tracked)

RESOLVED FIXED

People

(Reporter: kohei, Assigned: kohei)

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(Whiteboard: [kb=1460158] )

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Bug 538831 says Firebug is now a ® of MoFo.
CC'ing Liz for direction on what to update.  Does this include the Firebug logo and/or wordmark or would this just be an addition in the Other registered trademarks list?
I'll take a look and get back to you.
Just wanted to follow up to see if we should add the Firebug logo or not.
Mozilla has filed a trademark application for the word mark Firebug. It has not been registered yet. We did this on behalf of the Firebug team and will transfer the trademark to them if they form some type of entity. Firebug isn't really a Mozilla product, we just provide some support to them, like hosting the Firebug website. Given the independent nature of the Firebug project I'm not sure we want to add either Firebug or the Firebug logo to the Mozilla trademark list. I'm adding Harvey to see what he thinks and, depending on what he says, we might check with John Barton.
We should not add Firebug to our the list. Let me know if you want to talk more, but Liz summed it up pretty well. thanks /hja
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 14 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Resolution: FIXED → WONTFIX
I tend to think the trademark list should actually list all trademarks Mozilla has registered. If a trademark moves to another organization (as the Firebug one might), then it can be removed. But ultimately, what's the harm in being complete and accurate?

(fwiw, there are quite a few teams that are "provide[d] some support" and don't produce what can be called "Mozilla products" just use Mozilla technologies. On the current list, Camino, Bugzilla, and SeaMonkey come to mind. And of those three, Bugzilla doesn't even use Mozilla technologies.)
Reopening based on my comment.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Closing old Mozilla.org website bugs due to them not being relevant to the new Python-based Bedrock system. Re-open if this is a critical bug and should be resolved on the new system too.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 14 years ago12 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Reopening again...
(In reply to Samuel Sidler (:ss) from comment #9)
> Reopening again...

You forget to actually do that ;-)
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Why would we want to re-open this bug is Harvey, Mozilla's general legal council, has said we are not adding it due to legal reasons? If you still have questions, please contact Harvey directly.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 12 years ago12 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Did you read my comment 6? Harvey's (or rather Liz's) rationale doesn't hold up with the other trademarks on the list. Heck, even Minimo is listed on the trademark list and it's a product that will never exist again! (Unless dougt goes crazy and desperately wants to resurrect it.)

But you're right, I'll address Harvey, though not "directly" since any non-sensitive discussion about this bug should happen in this bug (as is common for Bugzilla).

Harvey, can you please respond to my comment 6? It seems like the rationale from comment 4 doesn't hold up based on the current trademark list. I'd like you to talk more about it.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Samuel - You may well be right. Harvey and I are both really busy right now, so I hope you'll be patient and post a reminder in about a month when hopefully one of us can take the time to think this through and provide an updated response. Would you do that?
(In reply to Liz Compton from comment #13)
> Would you do that?

Will do.
(In reply to Liz Compton from comment #13)
> Samuel - You may well be right. Harvey and I are both really busy right now,
> so I hope you'll be patient and post a reminder in about a month when
> hopefully one of us can take the time to think this through and provide an
> updated response. Would you do that?

Hello Liz! This is your one month reminder about this bug.
Component: www.mozilla.org → General
Product: Websites → www.mozilla.org
It's been a little more than a month since the one month reminder. :)
Liz, it's getting close to 11 months, just thought I'd post another reminder.
Blocks: 875404
(In reply to Liz Compton from comment #13)
> Samuel - You may well be right. Harvey and I are both really busy right now,
> so I hope you'll be patient and post a reminder in about a month when
> hopefully one of us can take the time to think this through and provide an
> updated response. Would you do that?

Here's your 14 month reminder.
(In reply to Liz Compton [:liz] from comment #13)
> Samuel - You may well be right. Harvey and I are both really busy right now,
> so I hope you'll be patient and post a reminder in about a month when
> hopefully one of us can take the time to think this through and provide an
> updated response. Would you do that?

Here's your 18 month reminder.
Hi all. After putting this off for a very long time, I thought I'd check in and see what others feel is the right approach to take with respect to trademarks that Mozilla has registered or applied to register on behalf of Mozilla affiliated projects that aren't MoCo products. Maybe we should list all of them. What do you think?
I believe the page should list all trademarks held by Mozilla.
(In reply to Liz Compton [:liz] (please use need info) from comment #20)
> Hi all. After putting this off for a very long time, I thought I'd check in
> and see what others feel is the right approach to take with respect to
> trademarks that Mozilla has registered or applied to register on behalf of
> Mozilla affiliated projects that aren't MoCo products. Maybe we should list
> all of them. What do you think?

Yes. We should list all of them.
OK, that's fine with me. Can someone on this bug update that page?
Attached file pull request
Assignee: nobody → kohei.yoshino
Status: REOPENED → ASSIGNED
Component: General → Pages & Content
Whiteboard: [kb=1460158]
Liz, can you confirm that this should be listed as Firebug® (with the R as opposed to the TM)?
Flags: needinfo?(liz)
Yes, that's correct, it is a registered trademark.
Flags: needinfo?(liz)
Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/9404bb178bfd49c83012e044d087e251169c4d33
Fix Bug 544002 - Add Firebug to the trademark list

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/a0700da5c3f0c00ef388b6a9036a4448393a646a
Merge pull request #2195 from kyoshino/bug-544002-firebug-trademark

Fix Bug 544002 - Add Firebug to the trademark list
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 12 years ago10 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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