552396 - Add tiscali.it

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Webtools :: ISPDB Server, defect)

Description

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Attachment: tiscali.it *.xml

http://ispdb.mozillamessaging.com/details/268

Comment 1

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Attachment: tiscali.it.pop3

Fix issue on <username> value.

Comment 2

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Attachment: tiscali.it.pop3 (v3)

add version to file for clarity

Comment 3

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 433137 [details]
tiscali.it.pop3 (v3)

><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>
><clientConfig>
>    <emailProvider id="tiscali.it">
>      <domain>tiscali.it</domain>
>
>      <displayName>Tiscali Mail</displayName>
>      <displayShortName>tiscali.it</displayShortName>
>
>      <incomingServer type="pop3">
>         <hostname>pop.tiscali.it</hostname>
>         <port>110</port>
>         <socketType>plain</socketType>
>         <username>%EMAILLOCALPART%</username>
>         <authentication>plain</authentication>
>      </incomingServer>

pop.tiscali.it lists SASL and CRAM-MD5 on port 110, so I think we can do better than plain authentication.

Also, imap.tiscali.it responds on port 143, with "AUTH=CRAM-MD5", so I think we should list secure IMAP, and have secure POP3 in a comment.

>      <outgoingServer type="smtp">
>         <hostname>smtp.tiscali.it</hostname>
>         <port>25</port>
>         <socketType>plain</socketType>
>         <username>%EMAILLOCALPART%</username>
>         <authentication>plain</authentication>


I don't get any responses from this host, but given that the other two servers respond with security as an option, I would be very surprised if this server didn't support some sort of security.

Thanks,
Blake.

Comment 4

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Attachment: tiscali.it (v4)

Fixes based on comment #3

Comment 5

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

<authentication>password-encrypted</authentication>

Very nice, but won't work for now with TB 3.0, only TB 3.1 supports that name. Use "secure" for now.

Yet another DSL ISP without proper mail servers (no SSL) :-(.

> <port>143</port><socketType>SSL</socketType>

That's not going to work, for sure. (In fact it doesn't)

> <hostname>smtp.tiscali.it</hostname>
> I don't get any responses from this host

ditto

Please find a proper config with SSL, which also works outside of their ISP network.

Comment 6

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

(In reply to comment #5)
> Please find a proper config with SSL, which also works outside of their ISP
> network.
At this moment I can't find any configuration of Tiscali that use SSL.
It seems only works with:

<incomingServer type="pop3">
  <hostname>pop.tiscali.it</hostname>
  <port>110</port>
  <socketType>plain</socketType>
  <username>%EMAILLOCALPART%</username>
  <authentication>secure</authentication>
</incomingServer> 

and similar for imap connections.

Comment 7

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Thanks, but what about SMTP? Neither Blake or me can get any reaction from smtp.tiscali.it.

Comment 8

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Should be right as show at http://assistenza.tiscali.it/tecnica/parametri/  : smtp.tiscali.it on port 25 without authentication.

We ask to Iacopo if someone in MozillaItalia forum can test this...

Comment 9

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

> Should be right

We need an SMTP server which always works, even if the user takes the notebook an cafe (McDonald's etc.), friend or checks and sends mail at the office.

Comment 10

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

(In reply to comment #9)
> > Should be right
> 
> We need an SMTP server which always works, even if the user takes the notebook
> an cafe (McDonald's etc.), friend or checks and sends mail at the office.

Ok The asnwer is NO as you can see on support page
http://assistenza.tiscali.it/risolvi/posta_elettronica/postaelettronica17.php

that point that 

"Tiscali only allow sending of SMTP emails when you are actually connected to tiscali"

Also this bug as bug #555245 is an advocacy bug.

Comment 11

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

I would suggest that we add the config, to at least let the users configure it inside the network, and note the restriction in the config file.

Preferably in a computer-readable format. With the v1.1 format, we already have <authentication>client-IP-address</authentication>, but that a) doesn't work with TB 3.0, only 3.1, and b) it would turn off SMTP authentication entirely. Maybe we need another way to express the restriction.

Comment 12

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 434489 [details]
tiscali.it (v4)

Giving r+ on this (if an XML comment is adding nothing the restriction), given that there's apparently really no better way.

Note that we already have orange.fr, free.fr and t-online.de with the same problem.

Comment 13

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

FWIW, I filed bug 556267 as advocacy tracker

Comment 14

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Attachment: tiscali.it (v5)

add XML comment

Comment 15

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 436197 [details]
tiscali.it (v5)

>         <authentication>password-encrypted</authentication>

As mentioned previously, this doesn't work yet.  Change it to "secure", and r=me.

Later,
Blake.

Comment 16

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Attachment: tiscali.it (v6)

Changes according to comment #15.

Comment 17

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 441433 [details]
tiscali.it (v6)

You didn't need to re-ask for review, but r=me anyways.

Thanks,
Blake.

Comment 18

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Ready to land: I set "checkin-need" flag (also if isn't a very "patch")?

Comment 19

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Attachment: tiscali.it, v7, v1.1 format

Comment 20

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Attachment: tiscali.it, v8, v1.1 format

Comment 21

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 442746 [details] [diff] [review]
tiscali.it, v7, v1.1 format

All the info looks the same, so I'll give it an r+.

Later,
Blake.

Comment 22

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 442750 [details] [diff] [review]
tiscali.it, v8, v1.1 format

you forgot to mark it r+ :)
Thanks.

Comment 23

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Commited as SVN revision 66659 to v1.1 (TB 3.1) only.
FIXED

Comment 24

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Somebody at tiscali please test this, because the server doesn't even respond to me.

Once tiscali has a proper SMTP server which works outside their network, and has port 587 open, please let us know.