Overview Description: There's no Form and Image Manager submenus in Tasks > Privacy and Security for subwindows like History, Manage Bookmarks, and Search Bookmarks/History Steps to Reproduce: 1) Open the History, Manage Bookmarks or Search Bookmarks/History window. 2) Tasks > Privacy and Security Actual Results: Form Manager and Image Manager are missing (I don't think Image Manager should be there in comm builds unless you have the pref enabled) Expected Results: Tasks > Privacy and Security should be the same throughout the app, so those two submenus should be there. Reproducibility: 100% Build Date & Platform Bug Found: just-pulled win98se Additional Information: There's presumably a missing overlay for these windows.
The removal of the form manager was done in the days when we had "capture form" and "prefill form" in the form-manager menu. It was meaningless to do a "capture form" of a bookmark window and it was probably causing a crash. Why the image manager is not displayed is a mystery to me. It's no longer so terrible to display the form-manager in the menu when in these other windows. But it's still quite useless to do so. In fact, the entire privacy-and-security entry in the task menu should probably not appear when looking at any of these subwindows. So I would probably fix this bug by removing privacy-and-security item in the tasks menu rather than by adding back two items from the privacy-and-security sub-submenu.
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Target Milestone: --- → M19
I agree that the user probably doesn't need to look at their form and image manager settings while rearranging their bookmarks. Still, the Tasks menu is supposed to be identical every place it appears (for complete consistency), so I thought we should just readd the items.
> Tasks menu is supposed to be identical every place it appears Where is this written? I would agree that the items for changing to a different task (navigator, mail, composer, address book) should probably be identical everywhere. But there's no justification for the same to be true for privacy-and-security.
> Where is this written? You're the one with the access to all of Netscape's specs, you tell me. This is a major point that Netscape's usability team has been touting for awhile. Maybe Vera can help us out here. For what it's worth, I agree that the Tasks menu should be exactly the same in all windows. Why confuse the user by removing functionality in some places? Who's to say that a user should be allowed to view his Address Book cards, but not his cookies? What if I see an URL in my bookmarks list and want to see what cookies that site has set?
I don't know what the spec is on this one. I've been advocating getting the Help menu correct in those windows (they were putting up a Help menu that didn't actually contain a link to the online help!), but that's a different matter -- we can reasonably expect that users might want to get help while in those windows. As to whether user would want the privacy features while in those windows -- well, I can see both Steve and Blake's POVs. I'd have to defer to the UE people on this one. I'll copy German and ask him to take a look at this bug.
Summary: Form and Image Manager submenus missing in Tasks menu of subwindows → [x]Form and Image Manager submenus missing in Tasks menu of subwindows
Target Milestone: M20 → ---
Summary: [x]Form and Image Manager submenus missing in Tasks menu of subwindows → Form and Image Manager submenus missing in Tasks menu of subwindows
Removing myself from list of cc's... since I'm just a wordsmith and not a cool UI guy like German.
Netscape nav triage team: based on Steve Morse's pre-triage recommendation, this is not a beta stopper.
>> Tasks menu is supposed to be identical every place it appears > Where is this written? Let's remove these items from Navigator's Tasks menu, and then we can all be happy :) Bug 67416, '[rfe] turn "Privacy and Security" and "Tools" into one top-level menu.' Btw, see also bug 62615, "image manager, form manager missing from tasks menu in composer". That bug might be a dup of this one.
yes the items in the tasks menus should _not_ be context specific but always consistent across apps. The intent is that this is a general access point to functionality in the product and we don't want to ruin people's memory of where items where placed by shwoing some items in some contexts but not in others. This intent is captured in the task menu section in the older Menu Framework spec http://mozilla.org/projects/ui/communicator/framework/menu_framework/
Image manager was explicitly removed from the task menu by cmanske a while back. However, due to bug 69669, it was put back. But I just checked and image manager seems to be missing again. Hmm, this requires more investigation.
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla1.2
*** Bug 62615 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
works for me in 20020213
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 17 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
Assignee: morse → nobody
Component: Form Manager → Form Manager
Product: Core → Toolkit
QA Contact: tpreston → form.manager
Target Milestone: mozilla1.2alpha → ---
Version: Trunk → unspecified
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