571068 - [D2D] Black menu background instead of transparent glass on older Nvidia hardware

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Firefox :: General, defect)

Description

[[not reading bugmail]]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.3a5pre) Gecko/20100608 Minefield/3.7a5pre ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729) Firefox/3.6.3
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.3a5pre) Gecko/20100608 Minefield/3.7a5pre ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729) Firefox/3.6.3

The menu issue looks like one of the attachments from bug 555950. 

The Download Mgr shows bug 556537.



Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Turn on D2D


Actual Results:  
Black menu background

Expected Results:  
Hopefully it can be transparent

Running on Nvidia 7050 / 610i - D3D9 and other people haven't been able to reproduce on newer Nvidia hardware or ATI.

Comment 1

[[not reading bugmail]]

Attachment: Black background in menu

Comment 2

[[not reading bugmail]]

This is without a persona and using the default theme.

Comment 3

[[not reading bugmail]]

(In reply to comment #0)
> Steps to Reproduce:
> 1. Turn on D2D

I should have said, Turn on DW, D2d.  D2D needs DW turned on also for it to work.

Comment 4

[[not reading bugmail]]

This bug and the download manager bug looks similar to issues here too:
bug 554764, bug 555477, bug 555198

Comment 5

[abacon]

Hi guys! 

UA: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a5pre) Gecko/20100608 Minefield/3.7a5pre ID:20100608173507

Also, I'm running a GeForce 6600 GT with drivers from 09/09.

I added a screenshot. 

Hope this helps,
Andrew

Comment 6

[abacon]

Attachment: Another screenshot

Shows the bug in action, with several differences from the OP. Tab list isn't refreshing; bubbles appear around file menu buttons. Bottom of download manager is also ugly (not shown).

Comment 7

[[not reading bugmail]]

I saw that exact same thing before I tried to test other scenarios like a new profile and multiple tests of D2D/DW on and off.  Now I just get what I have posted above.

Comment 8

[Jesse Ruderman]

Dup of bug 554874?  The screenshots look pretty similar.

Comment 9

[[not reading bugmail]]

(In reply to comment #8)
> Dup of bug 554874?  The screenshots look pretty similar.

One of the them is from my computer. :)

I don't think so, since this is still actually after the other D2D bugs landed and it hasn't been fixed for a subset of hardware users even though the rest of the folks show that same stuff as working for them, ie comment 0.

Comment 10

[[not reading bugmail]]

(In reply to comment #9)
> (In reply to comment #8)
> > Dup of bug 554874?  The screenshots look pretty similar.
> 
> One of the them is from my computer. :)
> 
> I don't think so, since this is still actually after the other D2D bugs landed
> and it hasn't been fixed for a subset of hardware users even though the rest of
> the folks show that same stuff as working for them, ie comment 0.

See bug 554874 comment 34 and bug 554874 comment 35 on down.

Comment 11

[Hans Schmucker]

Attachment: Working transparency on CtrlTab, broken on DL manager and main window

Interestingly enough, transparency (which by the way works perfectly without D2D) renders fine on the CtrlTab interface, while it is broken on the main window and the download manager.

This is on a NVidia Go 7900GS

Comment 12

[Bas Schouten (:bas.schouten)]

This does not block enabling by default on some subset of hardware. There is much hardware out there not affected by this.

Comment 13

[Hans Schmucker]

Bas, I'm not entirely sure I agree. Hardware acceleration is a major feature of Firefox 4 and this bug affects a significant number of users, while IE 9 provides working acceleration on the same system. It is also a regression from earlier D2D builds which worked flawlessly.

I'll try to find a regression range but I doubt it will be any good since the D2D support has changed a good deal in the meantime. If there's any other data needed to solve this issue, just drop me a line and I will get it for you.

Comment 14

[Hans Schmucker]

P.S. is there any other group of hardware that reports D2D capabilities, but eventually fails? Because if this bug is the only reason for Firefox to include hardware profiles, then I'd definitely say that fixing this is a better approach then adding hardware profiles that are otherwise unnecessary.

Comment 15

[Bas Schouten (:bas.schouten)]

(In reply to comment #14)
> P.S. is there any other group of hardware that reports D2D capabilities, but
> eventually fails? Because if this bug is the only reason for Firefox to include
> hardware profiles, then I'd definitely say that fixing this is a better
> approach then adding hardware profiles that are otherwise unnecessary.

There is loads and loads of hardware specific bugs. We will tackle them to the extent that we can and including more and more hardware in the whitelist as we go.

Comment 16

[Bas Schouten (:bas.schouten)]

Attachment: Transparency Tester

This stand alone application will show if your drivers are fundamentally capable of supporting hardware accelerated transparent windows, using the 'spacebar' while running it switches between glass and complete transparency. If this is having a black background for people those people are probably simply out of luck for aero glass + D2D.

Comment 17

[[not reading bugmail]]

The app didn't do anything for me when it started up.  Though If I right click on Minefield, edit properties, compatibility and disable desktop composition I get the exact same effect as turning on D2D.  

So I see Aero, and my dxDiag.exe reports HW Accel Level: Basic, and I haven't been able to figure out what that means.

I tried to adjust Nvidia settings but no luck there either.  Some uses of transparency suggesting using AA/AF maybe to make it work.

Comment 18

[Bas Schouten (:bas.schouten)]

(In reply to comment #17)
> The app didn't do anything for me when it started up.

Hrm, I wonder why that is, it works fine on all my machines.

Comment 19

[Hans Schmucker]

Thanks Bas, didn't know that hardware profiles are needed anyway.

As for the testing application: Same effect here as Dale encountered: it never opens a window.

What I'm curious about: Why does Ctrl+Tab display perfectly? What makes that dialog different from the download manager?

Comment 20

[Hans Schmucker]

BTW, the testing app is not only invisible, but doesn't show up in any lists (taskbar, task mananger window list, alt+tab, ...) either, so it apparently fails to create any window at all.

Comment 21

[[not reading bugmail]]

(In reply to comment #20)
> BTW, the testing app is not only invisible, but doesn't show up in any lists
> (taskbar, task mananger window list, alt+tab, ...) either, so it apparently
> fails to create any window at all.

The same here.

Bas, also something weird, I was trying to test turning on/off DW only with disabled desktop composition.  Sometimes I get black background toolbars and DLM and sometimes I get just grey background.  D2D set to -1.

I tried it with Quit w/o save tabs and Save and Quit.  I'm getting both issues under both settings of DW, I don't see a pattern wrt to DW only.   But maybe related to other bugs like device resets or something not being reinitialized everytime between pref change restarts?

Comment 22

[Bas Schouten (:bas.schouten)]

Attachment: Transparency Tester v2

The previous tester had issues with D3D 9 hardware. I've updated it, this should work for you guys as well.

Comment 23

[Hans Schmucker]

OK, this works perfectly in both modes. Still on 7900 Go GS, which is quite definitely D3D9 hardware :)

Comment 24

[Bas Schouten (:bas.schouten)]

(In reply to comment #23)
> OK, this works perfectly in both modes. Still on 7900 Go GS, which is quite
> definitely D3D9 hardware :)

This is certainly good to know! It suggests there may be something we can do, although I can't give any guarantees, and it still won't block enabling on some subset of hardware ;-).

Comment 25

[Hans Schmucker]

Pity, but at least there's hope :)

Just drop me a line directly if you need any more testing, since bug updates typically tend to get lost in the mailing list chatter.

Comment 26

[[not reading bugmail]]

v2 works for me too, I see transparency and glass.

Comment 27

[lopardo]

I have the same problem, with D2D and DirectWrite on. Transparency Tester v2 works ok: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6354360/minefield2.png

Windows 7 x64
Asus EN7600GT 256 MB (NVIDIA 7600 GT) - Drivers v257.21.

Comment 28

[lopardo]

It appears to be fixed now:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100625 Minefield/3.7a6pre

Comment 29

[lopardo]

The Back button doesn't look good (no antialias?) when D2D is on.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6354360/minefield3.png

Comment 30

[[not reading bugmail]]

Its fixed if bug 513162 stays in the tree.  The back button should be fixed when bug 567295 lands.

Comment 31

[[not reading bugmail]]

I'm going to mark this works for me for now based on comment 30, bug 513162 must have rewrote some of the code needed to make this happen.

Comment 32

[Hans Schmucker]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; en-US; rv:2.0b2pre) Gecko/20100629 Minefield/4.0b2pre ( LIKE Firefox/3.6 )

Confirming for GeForce Go 7900GS / Win7(64) as well : Background working, back button still broken.

Comment 33

[[not reading bugmail]]

Thanks.  btw, Jagged back button bug 556196 and has nothing to do with this bug.