577032 - A horrible turquoise hover color appears.

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

Description

[WPeyser]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Build Identifier: 3.0.5

When you hover the mouse over certain areas in the windows, a horrible turquoise color appears.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Hover the mouse over the "From" address selector in the Compose window.
2.
3.
Actual Results:  
The selector turns a horrible turquoise color.

Expected Results:  
A hover color should appear which will not make me want to vomit.

Comment 1

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

this doesn't quite strike me as a bug.
colors generally select from the OS UI.
are you using default theme?
examples other than "from"?

Comment 2

[WPeyser]

No, I'm not using the default theme. Why should I? Other examples include Personal Address Book in the Compose window address book pane. The hover color is programmed in by the Thunderbird developers, and it sucks!

Comment 3

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

Andreas are the Hover colors hard coded , or are they theme dependent ?

Comment 4

[Jim Porter (:squib)]

(In reply to comment #2)
> No, I'm not using the default theme.

Are you talking about your OS theme or your Thunderbird theme here? Either of these could have an effect on what you're seeing.

Could you post a screenshot? That might help narrow down where this problem is coming from.

Comment 5

[WPeyser]

I'm not using the default OS theme. I'm using a solid black background for the Desktop and Taskbar. I am using the default Thunderbird theme.

I can't paste a screenshot into the Additional Comments field. Can I paste it somewhere else?

Comment 6

[Jim Porter (:squib)]

Click "Add an attachment" and go through there (it's right before comment 0).

Comment 7

[WPeyser]

Created attachment 459140 [details]
Hover color in the Thunderbird Compose window

Comment 8

[Jim Porter (:squib)]

That looks like the Windows theme is to blame. See the drop-down list example here (esp the third image): http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb775791%28v=VS.85%29.aspx . Note that the regular drop-down on that page isn't an appropriate UI element because that's designed for typing in entries manually (see the second image).

Maybe someone else has another idea though.

Comment 9

[WPeyser]

If the OS were responsible, I'd encounter the same problem in other programs. I don't. Just in Thunderbird.

Comment 10

[Jim Porter (:squib)]

Are there dropdown lists of that source in other programs you use? Is the hover color different in those programs?

Comment 11

[Jim Porter (:squib)]

Oops, I meant to say "Are there dropdown lists of that sort"

Comment 12

[WPeyser]

Sure, such as the drop-down menu for months of the year when entering the expiration date of a credit card. I can assure you that this horrible hover color appears nowhere else except in Thunderbird.

Comment 13

[Jim Porter (:squib)]

Do you use Firefox? If so, does the same problem appear there? If this is an issue with Thunderbird, it's probably somewhere in the toolkit, so Firefox should be affected too.

Comment 14

[WPeyser]

No, Firefox is not affected.

Comment 15

[Andreas Nilsson (:andreasn)]

(In reply to comment #9)
> If the OS were responsible, I'd encounter the same problem in other programs. I
> don't. Just in Thunderbird.

What happens if you go to:
Control Panel > Clock, Language and Region > Regional Language options
and hover the current format dropdown?

On my system I get the same colors as in the message compose window. Both are using the system colors for the hover effect.

Comment 16

[Andreas Nilsson (:andreasn)]

(In reply to comment #3)
> Andreas are the Hover colors hard coded , or are they theme dependent ?

As far as I can see in messageHeader.css, line 568-572, it's using the Highlight color from the system.

Comment 17

[Andreas Nilsson (:andreasn)]

Added the ux-consistency keyword to this bug.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tJxF8zTuLdEj9pUcxnLAemA&output=html

According to this principle, the control should use the same colors as other controls in the system.

Comment 18

[WPeyser]

Yes, I get the same result as :andreasn. The same horrible hover color that appears in the Thunderbird Compose window appears in the OS. So the color is not coded into Thunderbird. Thunderbird just inherits the color from the OS. Any way to change this? Firefox does not inherit its hover color from the OS.

Comment 19

[Andreas Nilsson (:andreasn)]

You can change it by either selecting another Windows Theme, or by creating a new Thunderbird theme that overrides the system colors in those places. Closing this as Wontfix, since we want to use the same colors as the OS because we want to keep consistent with the OS.

Comment 20

[WPeyser]

Hello...

You're an idiot. Why use the same colors as the OS when those colors are obnoxious? Other applications don't use the same colors as the OS. Firefox doesn't.

This is just another example of why Thunderbird has a reputation for being a second-class client.

Good luck!

Comment 21

[Jim Porter (:squib)]

If you don't like the OS color scheme, you're more than welcome to install a different theme. That's what they're there for.

Comment 22

[Andreas Nilsson (:andreasn)]

WPeyser: Please avoid calling people idiots in bugzilla, insulting people is usually a receipt for turning the bugzilla discussion into crap.
Relax, this isn't personal, it's just that this UX principle is a good motivation for keeping the current behavior, as we want to be consistent with the OS and want to work well on all kinds of themes that people out there have installed.
However, if the majority of the popular Windows apps (in addition to Firefox) aren't doing this, we want to be consistent with them and this bug could be reopened. A list of 5-6 apps + screenshots should be enough.
The goal of TB should be an "invisible" interface.

Comment 23

[WPeyser]

You know what? If any of you geeks actually used Thunderbird on your home computers, you wouldn't need to be notified of bugs. You would be aware of them.