This is filed as a dependent bug of bugscape 3411 At the very first screen after launch, there is a status string of "Starting up..." at the bottom of the screen. If we translate it to Japanese, it will show garbled.
Is this a generic problem or specific to Macintosh?
I don't see the string on the 1st screen of windows build. And my linux machine is too fast to check this screen.
For Macintosh, this is localizable by editing resources ('DITL', 'ictb'). Reassign to sfraser, please investigate if there is a way to use XP string for that string instead of Macintosh specific one.
Assignee: nhotta → sfraser
OS: Windows 95 → Mac System 9.x
Hardware: PC → Macintosh
There is NO WAY to use any XP code here, because this all happens before any of the XPCOM services are loaded. The progress strings are currently hard-coded, but could be loaded from platform-specific resources if this makes l10n easier.
Wontfix, since there is now way, bar resource editing, to localize that text. If you have to localize it, make a way, and I'll use it.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 18 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Verified as wonfix.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
*** Bug 121108 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Why is this text appearing anyway? There is no similar text on Linux or Windows. It is redundant. The user knows Mozilla is starting up - they can see the splash screen! I reccomend that we remove this text entirely from OS 8.x/9 and OS X builds. It adds a lot of extra effort on the part localisation engineers for no real gain in terms of end user experience. It breaks the localisability guidelines and is not localisable at all on OS X. Reopening, Nominating.
Status: VERIFIED → REOPENED
Priority: P3 → P2
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
well, seems other platforms were planning to add some status text to the splash also. see bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35866 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66898
For Mac, to make it easier for localization, the DITL rsrc should not contain any strings. All text should be in STR#.
I can put the text in a STR# easily enough. But we are going to keep text in the splash screen, and add more notifications. It's an important part of the user experience during our all-too-long startup period.
Status: REOPENED → ASSIGNED
agree. But, without XP code, is it easy to put all localiable strings (STR#) into a text file, like an ini separated with the app? That way, we won't need to touch the app too much, just change the language in "vers". This is just my personal opinion, maybe too excessive, heehee, sorry ;-)
"hard coding" strings like this into the app is a Bad Thing. It requires extra work for localisation engineers. Hardcoding strings outside the existing XP packages adds risk that the engineer might break something while localising which requires additional QA time. This is a multiple of the number of languages. This makes it very difficult to ship simultaneous or ever timely Mac builds. It also costs money - probably 2 man weeks per year across all the languages. I still do not see a good reason for this text. Mac startup time is much better than when this hack was created. There are better ways to show startup progress than displaying localisable text such as progress bars or icons.
Depends on: 100225
Summary: "Starting up" on the very first screen is not localizable → "Starting up" on the splash screen is not localizable
Simon - Is this something you can get to before you leave?
Dupping to the more general bug 100225. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 100225 ***
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 18 years ago → 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
Verified as dup.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
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