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Bug 621335
Opened 14 years ago
Closed 1 year ago
Direct2D results in large graphics slowdown on Intel HD mobile cards
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(Core :: Graphics, defect)
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(Reporter: pcwalton, Unassigned)
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(Whiteboard: [platform-rel-Intel])
I'm on a Lenovo ThinkPad X201 with this graphics card as reported by about:support: Adapter Description: Intel(R) HD Graphics Vendor ID: 8086 Device ID: 0046 The graphics performance is poor. Opening new tabs, for example, is very chunky. Setting gfx.direct2d.disabled to true in about:config makes the browser much smoother. Should we blacklist this card for Direct2D?
Comment 1•14 years ago
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How is IE9 for you?
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Comment 2•14 years ago
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Huh, that's weird. Installing IE9 fixed the speed issue in Firefox! The FishIE tank demo on beta8 beats IE in framerate now.
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Comment 3•14 years ago
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Hmm, that's not entirely true: the animation when opening new tabs is still much slower with Direct2D on than with it off. So it seems to be a tradeoff now.
Comment 4•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #2) > Huh, that's weird. Installing IE9 fixed the speed issue in Firefox! The FishIE > tank demo on beta8 beats IE in framerate now. Not too weird :) IE9 installs some MS hotfixes for D2D and DirectWrite. (In reply to comment #3) > Hmm, that's not entirely true: the animation when opening new tabs is still > much slower with Direct2D on than with it off. So it seems to be a tradeoff > now. It's interesting that this specifically is slow, I wonder what makes it slow, is this animation slow with Direct2D -off- (graphics.direct2d.disabled true) but leaving accelerated on? To be fair, somewhat of a tradeoff is expected, some operations are just fundamentally slower with hardware acceleration but that should be a minority. And we should ensure it does not adversely effect the UI experience.
Comment 5•13 years ago
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Take a look at these: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=621335 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688050
Comment 6•13 years ago
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Sorry, the above comment was meant for different bug.
Also bug 692736 and bug 688050 have the same card ID as this one. What card is it and why it it that slow?
Comment 10•13 years ago
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I have Dell Inspiron 17R with Intel HD Graphic Adapter Description: Intel(R) HD Graphics Vendor ID: 8086 Device ID: 0046 Graphics performance is poor.
Comment 11•13 years ago
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I still don't know what is the model number of this card. See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/Blocked_Graphics_Drivers, where the GPU family is something like "900" or "X3000". Couldn't find anything via Google either, maybe this is one of the very first Intel GPUs?
Comment 12•13 years ago
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Device ID%: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0046&SUBSYS_04571028&REV_12 Intel® GME/GLE 965 Current Driver Installed 8.15.10.1749 Driver is current
Comment 13•13 years ago
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Ok, do you have Firefox 7? Then please post Graphics section from about:support.
Comment 14•13 years ago
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From the "blocklist" link: "Up to and including Firefox 6, on certain GPUs in the GMA X3000 generation (G35, GL960, GM965), we block Direct2D. See bug 595364. In Firefox 7 and newer, Direct2D is no longer blacklisted on these GPUs. " So, I think your GLE965 would be in the X3000 family and thus it needs at least driver version 8.15.10.1930. It should exist, try searching harder. E.g. I found this link that I think could be for your laptop. There is no 17R model, but according to google it is called N7010: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?os=W764&catid=6&dateid=-1&impid=-1&osl=EN&typeid=-1&formatid=-1&servicetag=&SystemID=INSPIRON_N7010&hidos=W764&hidlang=en&TabIndex=&scanSupported=False&scanConsent=False They offer 8.15.10.2104.
Comment 15•13 years ago
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Currently Firefox 10.0a1, but problem is same. Graphics Adapter Description Intel(R) HD Graphics Vendor ID 8086 Device ID 0046 Adapter RAM Unknown Adapter Drivers igdumd64 igd10umd64 igdumdx32 igd10umd32 Driver Version 8.15.10.2509 Driver Date 8-31-2011 Adapter RAM (GPU #2) Unknown Adapter Drivers (GPU #2) Unknown Direct2D Enabled true DirectWrite Enabled true (6.1.7601.17563) ClearType Parameters Gamma: 2200 Pixel Structure: RGB ClearType Level: 100 Enhanced Contrast: 200 WebGL Renderer Google Inc. -- ANGLE (Intel(R) HD Graphics) -- OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 0.0.0.774) GPU Accelerated Windows 1/1 Direct3D 10
Comment 16•13 years ago
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Sorry Intel® Driver Update Utility show wrong version. My driver is up to date. 8.15.10.2509
Comment 17•13 years ago
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Did you force direct2D enabled in about:config? Or is it used automatically by Firefox?
Comment 18•13 years ago
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Yes, Dell N7010 Just set gfx.direct2d.force-enabled = true Same problem.
Comment 19•13 years ago
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Also same defect on Intel® G41. (Intel E6700)
Comment 20•13 years ago
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Do not set it to true. I asked if you set force-enabled to false, if Firefox still enables Direct 2D. Can you also post about:support (Graphics) from the G41 machine?
Comment 21•13 years ago
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G41 Графіка Опис відеоплати Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset Код виробника 8086 Код пристрою 2e32 Пам’ять відеоплати Unknown Драйвери відеоплати igdumdx32 igd10umd32 Версія драйвера 8.15.10.2413 Дата драйвера 6-3-2011 Direct2D увімкнено true DirectWrite увімкнено true (6.1.7601.17563) Параметри ClearType Параметри ClearType не знайдені WebGL Renderer Google Inc. -- ANGLE -- OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 0.0.0.686) Апаратно прискорені вікна 1/1 Direct3D 10
Comment 22•13 years ago
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OK, so counting this bug and bug 692736 there are 3 people claiming Direct2D is making UI slower than when it is off, on the 0046 card ID. However, test in bug 692736 comment 6 shows that page content is faster with Direct2D. So it seems to be a tradeoff. Not a clear case for blocklisting.
Comment 23•13 years ago
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Same defect on Dell N5010 (Intel HD Graphic 3000) Опис відеоплати Intel(R) HD Graphics Family Код виробника 8086 Код пристрою 0116 Пам’ять відеоплати Unknown Драйвери відеоплати igdumdx32 igd10umd32 igd10umd32 Версія драйвера 8.15.10.2509 Дата драйвера 8-31-2011 Direct2D увімкнено true DirectWrite увімкнено true (6.1.7600.16763) Параметри ClearType Параметри ClearType не знайдені WebGL Renderer Google Inc. -- ANGLE -- OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 0.0.0.686) Апаратно прискорені вікна 1/1 Direct3D 10
Comment 24•13 years ago
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Do you have Internet Explorer 9 installed? I read in another bug that it installs some Direct2D patches that increase performance. Would it be possible for you to install it?
Comment 25•13 years ago
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Yes, IE 9 installed. Windows 7.
Comment 26•13 years ago
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I think that the problem is not in the browser, but rather in the drivers. Recently tried WebGL in Google Maps - bad result as Firefox and in Chromium.
Comment 27•13 years ago
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But WebGL is quite different from Direct2D.
Comment 28•13 years ago
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Sorry, did not know
Comment 29•13 years ago
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Test with http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ 4 FPS (all defaults, HWA disabled): FireFox UI is fast, Panorama is slow 15 FPS ( layers.prefer-d3d9=True, HWA enabled): UI and Panorama is reactive, font is ugly 60+ FPS (all defaults, HWA enabled): firefox interface and Panorama is terribly slow Strange results...
Comment 30•13 years ago
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(In reply to aceman from comment #27) > But WebGL is quite different from Direct2D. Yes and no. WebGL goes through ANGLE on Intel chipsets, meaning that ultimately WebGL performance is tied to DirectX performance.
Comment 31•13 years ago
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(In reply to Andrew G from comment #29) > Test with http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ > > 4 FPS (all defaults, HWA disabled): > FireFox UI is fast, Panorama is slow > 15 FPS ( layers.prefer-d3d9=True, HWA enabled): > UI and Panorama is reactive, font is ugly > 60+ FPS (all defaults, HWA enabled): > firefox interface and Panorama is terribly slow > > Strange results... Using D3D9 disables Direct2D (and DirectWrite font rendering), so the middle results aren't overly surprising.
Comment 32•13 years ago
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(In reply to Ryan VanderMeulen from comment #31) > (In reply to Andrew G from comment #29) > > Test with http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ > > > > 4 FPS (all defaults, HWA disabled): > > FireFox UI is fast, Panorama is slow > > 15 FPS ( layers.prefer-d3d9=True, HWA enabled): > > UI and Panorama is reactive, font is ugly > > 60+ FPS (all defaults, HWA enabled): > > firefox interface and Panorama is terribly slow > > > > Strange results... > > Using D3D9 disables Direct2D (and DirectWrite font rendering), so the middle > results aren't overly surprising. It actually might very well even cause reasback, you want to layers.direct2d.disabled=true, that will fallback to D3D9 and disable D2D.
Comment 33•13 years ago
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Is there a way to disable Direct2D only for FF interface (chrome)? That would be what this bug requests, because accelerating page content seems to work and give positive results. The second part is: If we find out the acceptable settings, would it be possible to make them FF default for this range of cards?
Comment 34•13 years ago
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At least add graphics to blocklist, because many people use laptops with integrated video and move from Firefox to Google Chome through a slow interface.
Comment 35•13 years ago
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Yes, that would be the last resort solution, if no better settings can be found. Because as you could benchmark, leaving Direct2D enabled does have some advantages (at least for content). Have you tried IE9? Does its UI work fast?
Comment 36•13 years ago
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Having similar issues with firefox and HD Graphics, I can assure you, that firefox is waaaay slower than IE and Chrome in terms of UI rendering. IE, opera and chrome are fast and smooth.
Comment 37•13 years ago
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(In reply to Andrew G from comment #29) > Test with http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ > > 4 FPS (all defaults, HWA disabled): > FireFox UI is fast, Panorama is slow > 15 FPS ( layers.prefer-d3d9=True, HWA enabled): > UI and Panorama is reactive, font is ugly > 60+ FPS (all defaults, HWA enabled): > firefox interface and Panorama is terribly slow > > Strange results... OK, what is the result with gfx.direct2d.disabled but Direct3D 10 enabled (check the state in about:support)?
Comment 38•13 years ago
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44 FPS ( gfx.direct2d.disabled=0, HWA enabled): firefox interface and Panorama is terribly slow. Графіка Опис відеоплати Intel(R) HD Graphics Код виробника 8086 Код пристрою 0046 Пам’ять відеоплати Unknown Драйвери відеоплати igdumd64 igd10umd64 igdumdx32 igd10umd32 Версія драйвера 8.15.10.2509 Дата драйвера 8-31-2011 Пам’ять відеоплати (GPU #2) Unknown Драйвери відеоплати (GPU #2) Unknown Direct2D увімкнено true DirectWrite увімкнено true (6.1.7601.17563) Параметри ClearType Gamma: 2200 Pixel Structure: RGB ClearType Level: 100 Enhanced Contrast: 200 Рендерер WebGL Google Inc. -- ANGLE -- OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 0.0.0.686) Апаратно прискорені вікна 1/1 Direct3D 10
Comment 39•13 years ago
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IE 9: Test with http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ AND https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsZ7kFCDBnE6dHpyVkJ5WUNJM3M3b3FDQS11cGxLQ3c&hl=en_US#gid=0 44 FPS (all defaults), UI i fast.
Comment 40•13 years ago
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IE 9: Test with http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ AND https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsZ7kFCDBnE6dHpyVkJ5WUNJM3M3b3FDQS11cGxLQ3c&hl=en_US#gid=0 60+ FPS (all defaults), UI i fast.
Comment 41•13 years ago
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You must set gfx.direct2d.disabled to true not 0. As you can see in your about:support in comment 38, your Direct2D is still enabled. Please retest. What is the difference in comment 40 and comment 39? Both IE 9 but different FPS? Why is that?
Comment 42•13 years ago
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Comment #40 is misprint.
Comment 43•13 years ago
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15 FPS ( gfx.direct2d.disabled=true, HWA enabled): UI is fast and smooth. Опис відеоплати Intel(R) HD Graphics Код виробника 8086 Код пристрою 0046 Пам’ять відеоплати Unknown Драйвери відеоплати igdumd64 igd10umd64 igdumdx32 igd10umd32 Версія драйвера 8.15.10.2509 Дата драйвера 8-31-2011 Пам’ять відеоплати (GPU #2) Unknown Драйвери відеоплати (GPU #2) Unknown Direct2D увімкнено false DirectWrite увімкнено false (6.1.7601.17563) Параметри ClearType Gamma: 2200 Pixel Structure: RGB ClearType Level: 100 Enhanced Contrast: 200 Рендерер WebGL Google Inc. -- ANGLE -- OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 0.0.0.686) Апаратно прискорені вікна 1/1 Direct3D 9
Comment 44•13 years ago
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There is Direct3D 9 again. I wanted 10. But maybe Direct2D and Direct3D 10 are connected and you can't get one without the other.
Comment 45•13 years ago
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Yes, when set gfx.direct2d.disabled=false: GPU Accelerated Windows1/1 Direct3D 10 but when gfx.direct2d.disabled=true: GPU Accelerated Windows1/1 Direct3D 9
Comment 46•12 years ago
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Today install Firefox 11. The problem with smooth animation in the new version left. This is evident not only in the pages of active motion, but on the interface for programs to open and close tabs. http://tympanus.net/Tutorials/AnimatedButtons/ http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Performance/BrickBreaker/ In other brousers (IE, Chome) all fine. Графіка Опис відеоплати Intel(R) HD Graphics Код виробника 8086 Код пристрою 0046 Пам’ять відеоплати Unknown Драйвери відеоплати igdumd64 igd10umd64 igdumdx32 igd10umd32 Версія драйвера 8.15.10.2622 Дата драйвера 1-10-2012 Direct2D увімкнено true DirectWrite увімкнено true (6.1.7601.17563) Параметри ClearType Gamma: 2200 Pixel Structure: RGB ClearType Level: 100 Enhanced Contrast: 50 Рендерер WebGL Google Inc. -- ANGLE (Intel(R) HD Graphics) -- OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 1.0.0.930) Апаратно прискорені вікна 1/1 Direct3D 10 AzureBackend direct2d
Comment 47•12 years ago
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Seems like this issue hits nhl.com very hard it is unusable with direct2d enable on my machines with Intel graphics. Over a year and nothing going...guess I'll be leaving d2d disabled for a while...
Comment 48•12 years ago
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Just tried to explore the site with Firefox 14 and hardware acceleration, the laptop was warm, cpu high usage, and the interface site was lagging. Very sad that Chrome everything works fine with acceleration. Maybe problem not in drivers.
Comment 49•12 years ago
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Are you sure Chrome uses acceleration there?
Comment 50•12 years ago
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Chrome doesn't accelerate content drawing at this point in release versions. Nor does it use Direct2D. It just accelerates composition, like the direct3D 9 support you're seeing when Direct2D is disabled. Could you confirm disabling Direct2D through your about:config, but leaving Direct3D9 enabled resolves your issues?
Comment 51•12 years ago
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Drivers latest. Firefox http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ only 45 FPS nhl.com - lag/ Chrome about:flags GPU compositing on all pages - On http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ only 15 FPS nhl.com works fine
Comment 52•12 years ago
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What params change in about:config?
Comment 53•12 years ago
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On the bottom of about:support, you see Direct2D (having true or false as value) and "GPU accelerated windows" (having Direct3D 9 or 10 as value).
Comment 54•12 years ago
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I don't know much about this stuff (for example how to leave d3d enabled, is that by leaving hardware acceleration option on?) but here is what I see: Hardware on and direct2d in config on: lag Hardware on and direct2d config off: no lag Hardware acceleration off: no lag With hardware accel. on and d2d disabled in about:config I see that d2d is indeed disabled and GPU Accelerated Windows1 is Direct3D 9 in about:support.
Comment 55•12 years ago
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Windows 7 64bit Current settings with lag: Direct2D Enabled true DirectWrite Enabled true (6.1.7601.17776) GPU Accelerated Windows1/1 Direct3D 10 AzureBackend direct2d
Comment 56•12 years ago
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I think HW acceleration in Options->Advanced->General turns both Direct2D and Direct3D off. You must leave that option on, but in about:config filter for Direct2D and set the found options so that it is disabled (I can't spell them currently as I am on Linux). It seems alldred got it right.
Comment 57•12 years ago
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(In reply to alldred from comment #54) > I don't know much about this stuff (for example how to leave d3d enabled, is > that by leaving hardware acceleration option on?) but here is what I see: > > Hardware on and direct2d in config on: lag > Hardware on and direct2d config off: no lag > Hardware acceleration off: no lag > > With hardware accel. on and d2d disabled in about:config I see that d2d is > indeed disabled and GPU Accelerated Windows1 is Direct3D 9 in about:support. This sounds like you did the right thing, and does indeed suggest that Direct2D is responsible for the issues you're seeing and not hardware acceleration performance in general. Considering your WebGL result it seems to be caused by poor GPU performance in general for things more advanced than simple compositing. The reason is a little hard to say still, could you check if power saving mode affects it? Additionally it would be helpful if you could specify the exact notebook type/hardware so we can try and acquire hardware that can reproduce the issues.
Comment 58•12 years ago
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Dell Inspiron N7010 with Intel HD Graphic (Core i3) Processor Intel64 Family 6 Model 37 Driver version 8.15.10.2622 Power state: High Performance Resolution 1600x900 Adapter Description: Intel(R) HD Graphics Vendor ID: 8086 Device ID: 0046 Interesting: Is Firefox on Linux works fine on Intel HD? I ready to change my system for such)))
Comment 59•12 years ago
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Is WebGL that test Andrew linked? I get 60+ fps with direct2d on, 18 fps with direct2d off/direct3d on, and 10fps with all hardware acceleration off. I'm using an inspiron e6410 with Intel HD graphics on the i5-540m cpu. I think you might be able to check this out on any system with Intel HD/HD2000/HD3000 graphics though. My HTPC has an i5-2300 (HD2000 graphics) and the issue is exactly the same with the fps test in those same 3 conditions giving 60+/25/12.
Comment 60•12 years ago
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Oops i mean Dell Latitude e6410 not inspiron.
Comment 61•12 years ago
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Andrew, HW acceleration in Firefox on Linux does nothing, so yeah, it works fine :)
Comment 62•12 years ago
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Apparently nhl.com performance has been discussed already here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690623 Not sure how that gradient thing ties into the direct2d.
Comment 63•12 years ago
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I get 60+ fps with direct2d on = 29fps with direct2d off/direct3d on = 14fps with all hardware acceleration off = 6fps but my screen size 17" (1600x900) other page to test smooth with HA (quick move mouse under buttons) http://tympanus.net/Tutorials/AnimatedButtons/
Comment 64•12 years ago
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(In reply to :aceman from comment #61) > Andrew, HW acceleration in Firefox on Linux does nothing, so yeah, it works > fine :) what Linux distributive you use?
Comment 65•12 years ago
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That is not important because universally there is not much acceleration on linux. Only WebGL is accelerated on the graphics card (OpenGL). There is no equivalent to Direct2D. (Maybe just XRender that is internal to the X server.) There is equivalent to "GPU accelerated windows (Direct3D)" via OpenGL but it is not yet enabled as it is very buggy. So there you go :)
Comment 66•12 years ago
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this site http://inception-explained.com/ gives about (I assume) 4-5 fps while scrolling on my win 8 CP x3100 nightly ux 14 (with forced d3d HA true)
Comment 67•12 years ago
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this site http://inception-explained.com/ lagging in ALL browsers on my DELL Inspiron N7010.
Comment 68•12 years ago
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I am experiencing the same issue, Firefox's is very sluggish and there is a almost permanent latency between user input and firefox response. My system is a DELL XPS L502X with intel hd-3000 and nvidia Geforce GT 540M in a nvidia optimus configuration. The only way to resolve the issue was to set Firefox to use the Nvidia card instead of intel hd-3000 (this is the default setting) from nvidia's control panel. The processor Power-state is referenced here, but there also the "Intel Graphics Power Plan" under the Intel Graphics settings in the windows power options configuration. It may help to set the "Intel Graphics Power Plan" to "Maximum Performance", it may reduce the latency that exists between user input and Firefox's response because the graphics card will be already (i hope) in high performance mode.
Comment 69•12 years ago
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We seriously need to get a hold of one of these machines with the GFX team that clearly reproduce this issue so we can find a way to fix this!
Comment 70•12 years ago
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(In reply to Bas Schouten (:bas) from comment #69) > We seriously need to get a hold of one of these machines with the GFX team > that clearly reproduce this issue so we can find a way to fix this! I can run any test and send the results back if it helps.
Comment 71•12 years ago
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(In reply to nkefalas from comment #70) > (In reply to Bas Schouten (:bas) from comment #69) > > We seriously need to get a hold of one of these machines with the GFX team > > that clearly reproduce this issue so we can find a way to fix this! > > I can run any test and send the results back if it helps. We need more in debt profiles. The theory here would be that CPU usage during the slow response is low, and GPU usage is high. If that's not correct we need to examine things more closely.
Comment 72•12 years ago
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(In reply to Bas Schouten (:bas) from comment #71) > (In reply to nkefalas from comment #70) > > (In reply to Bas Schouten (:bas) from comment #69) > > > We seriously need to get a hold of one of these machines with the GFX team > > > that clearly reproduce this issue so we can find a way to fix this! > > > > I can run any test and send the results back if it helps. > > We need more in debt profiles. The theory here would be that CPU usage > during the slow response is low, and GPU usage is high. If that's not > correct we need to examine things more closely. Can you be more specific, any guide how to do it?
Comment 73•12 years ago
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Gmail is dreadfully slow for me with hardware acceleration enabled on Windows 8. Would this be the appropriate place to post my information as well, or would I be better served by filing a new bug?
Comment 74•10 years ago
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(In reply to Patrick Walton (:pcwalton) from comment #0) > I'm on a Lenovo ThinkPad X201 with this graphics card as reported by > about:support: > > Adapter Description: Intel(R) HD Graphics > Vendor ID: 8086 > Device ID: 0046 > > The graphics performance is poor. Opening new tabs, for example, is very > chunky. Setting gfx.direct2d.disabled to true in about:config makes the > browser much smoother. > > Should we blacklist this card for Direct2D? The animations during going in and out of Customization in Fx29 are slideshow-slow. Also website-animations like the accordion on www.mozilla.org are really slow too. Yet, in IE11, the same website-animation is blazing fast by comparison. There's no problem with the GPU, but how it's used.
Comment 75•10 years ago
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I'm using Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 14.04 (running on an old core i5 with Intel HD 4000 graphics), and it's not bad. When I go to www.mozilla.org, everything is awesomely smooth and responsive. With Gmail the inbox still janks every now and then (every couple of seconds or so). Many other pages do not scroll smoothly at all, like this one: http://www.zdnet.com/torvalds-clarifies-linuxs-windows-8-secure-boot-position-7000011918/ If I open up something like Jenkins in the office with autoscroll enabled (we have a very long list of Jenkins items) and I scroll slowly, it's smooth most of the time, but it still janks every couple of seconds (thereabouts). It "feels" like there is some kind of garbage collection going on that freezes the UI for a split second, or that all operations required to render the page 60 times per second sometimes take longer than 16.6ms to complete (hence the jank). The same behaviour occurs on most lengthy pages (where you can vertically scroll long enough to see it), and especially on pages when with embedded videos and images (when scrolling vertically, janking always occurs when you have to scroll past an embedded YouTube video). Same thing occurs for pages like Twitter and Google+. I understand that pages with infinite scroll lists will pause when they have to perform a network operation to load more of the page, but even when you scroll back up, it's not consistently smooth (judders/janks/stutters occur). While this may be considered a small imperfection (which I agree it is) it's still annoying as it prevents the end-user experience from being flawless. As is well known by Apple and fairly recently discovered by Intel (after reverse engineering the iOS user experience), they key to success in today's market is a smooth and responsive UI. That is, a consistently smooth 60 frames per second, and low latency (no more than 15ms).
Comment 76•10 years ago
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Firefox 33.0.2 on Intel HD3000 just is slow.
Comment 77•9 years ago
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Confirmed on stable Firefox 36 on Intel HD3000 (Windows 7)
Comment 78•9 years ago
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I have a samsung ultra 7 laptop with an intel HD4000 integrated graphics and an AMD radeon HD 8700M. For some reason firefox is locked to using the "power saving" option and cannot be set to use the radeon "high performance" option. this means i have to use another browser for flash or html5 video!
Comment 79•9 years ago
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almost every single other application has the choice in the catalyst control panel as to which graphics card it runs in, but fro some reason firefox has a lock icon and will only run on the intel card.
Comment 80•9 years ago
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(In reply to nkefalas from comment #72) > (In reply to Bas Schouten (:bas) from comment #71) > > (In reply to nkefalas from comment #70) > > > (In reply to Bas Schouten (:bas) from comment #69) > > > > We seriously need to get a hold of one of these machines with the GFX team > > > > that clearly reproduce this issue so we can find a way to fix this! > > > > > > I can run any test and send the results back if it helps. > > > > We need more in debt profiles. The theory here would be that CPU usage > > during the slow response is low, and GPU usage is high. If that's not > > correct we need to examine things more closely. > > Can you be more specific, any guide how to do it?
Flags: needinfo?(bas)
Comment 81•9 years ago
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(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk, use Needinfo for questions) from comment #80) > (In reply to nkefalas from comment #72) > > (In reply to Bas Schouten (:bas) from comment #71) > > > (In reply to nkefalas from comment #70) > > > > (In reply to Bas Schouten (:bas) from comment #69) > > > > > We seriously need to get a hold of one of these machines with the GFX team > > > > > that clearly reproduce this issue so we can find a way to fix this! > > > > > > > > I can run any test and send the results back if it helps. > > > > > > We need more in debt profiles. The theory here would be that CPU usage > > > during the slow response is low, and GPU usage is high. If that's not > > > correct we need to examine things more closely. > > > > Can you be more specific, any guide how to do it? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler Use that while focusing on workloads that are specifically slow.
Flags: needinfo?(bas)
Updated•8 years ago
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Whiteboard: [platform-rel-Intel]
Updated•8 years ago
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platform-rel: --- → ?
Updated•7 years ago
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platform-rel: ? → ---
Updated•2 years ago
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Severity: normal → S3
Updated•1 year ago
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Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 1 year ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
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