630264 - pm-app01 (nutch) purpose inquiry and possible retirement

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(mozilla.org Graveyard :: Webdev, task)

Description

[Ben Kero [:bkero]]

The IT team has recently been getting pages about nutch being unreachable (java was dying on the host).  This instance of nutch was running on pm-app01, however nobody on the IT team knows what this is for.

We would like to know if this box is being usde by webdev, or if not, is it being used by ANYBODY at Mozilla.  If not, we'd like to retire the box to decrease the noise from nagios every night.

Comment 1

[Fred Wenzel [:wenzel]]

Coincidentally, I brought this topic up with the Websites team yesterday. Let me CC all involved.

James, can you take it from here?

Comment 2

[James Long (:jlongster)]

Thanks Fred. I only know of mozilla.com, but it doesn't use it anymore. From what I hear, there are plans to integrate search again, but it's not high priority and nutch was really bad anyway. We'll probably use Google.

So I don't need it for anything, and if no one else hollas, I'd say it's ok to retire.

Laura can confirm this from the engagement end.

Comment 3

[Laura Forrest]

I can confirm that Nutch was pretty bad. I think it's okay to scrap it since we'll want to launch with a better solution once search is back on the site.

Comment 4

[David Boswell]

I'll second Laura's comments.  There are plans to create better search across all of Mozilla's sites but I doubt we'd use Nutch.

Comment 5

[Fred Wenzel [:wenzel]]

Ben: When taking down the prod service, please also note that there's a staging site to go with it.

Comment 6

[Ben Kero [:bkero]]

Before I destroy it, I'm going to shut it down and see if anything/anybody
complains.

Comment 7

[Dustin J. Mitchell [:dustin] (he/him)]

This box got started again, but is still not in use.

Comment 8

[James Long (:jlongster)]

Is it replicating itself?

Comment 9

[Dustin J. Mitchell [:dustin] (he/him)]

perhaps, but a better guess is that one of the ESX hosts crashed.  They've occasionally done so in such a way that the VMs don't come back up automatically, and the typical response from IT is to just spin up every VM.  So this VM probably got swept along.

Comment 10

[Fred Wenzel [:wenzel]]

You may destroy it.

Nutch used to be the backend of mozilla.com's search function many summers ago when it still *had* a search function. Just last week, the universal tab reintroduced a search function but it is powered by Google. There are no plans to go back to nutch.

Comment 11

[Dustin J. Mitchell [:dustin] (he/him)]

pm-app01 has been killed, and deleted from inventory.