Closed
Bug 635078
Opened 13 years ago
Closed 13 years ago
Make mozilla.support.other moderated
Categories
(mozilla.org :: Discussion Forums, task)
mozilla.org
Discussion Forums
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
FIXED
People
(Reporter: cilias, Assigned: justdave)
References
Details
The proposal in bug 598060 doesn't apply to the support newsgroups. I've discussed it with the support newsgroup community, and we'd like to implement the same configuration except have messages from new posters automatically approved instead of held for moderation, and rely on SpamAssassin to filter the spam. http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/826bcd4cc331a823 mozilla.support.other has almost no user traffic, so I think that would be a good place to test this out first.
Updated•13 years ago
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Assignee: server-ops → justdave
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Comment 1•13 years ago
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I'm going to wait on getting all the pending new group creations sorted with Google before implementing this, just to keep things orderly. We finally have an open communication channel with Google though, so that probably won't be longer than a few days.
Comment 2•13 years ago
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Please update <http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/> when this is implemented (per bug #620085).
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Updated•13 years ago
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Comment 3•13 years ago
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OK, this appears to be completed now.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 13 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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Comment 4•13 years ago
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If we see spam make it through, how do we report it so SpamAssassin can be adjusted?
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Comment 5•13 years ago
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We've got 3 spam messages auto-approved to the list. What can we do to tweak SpamAssassin, so those messages are not auto-approved?
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Comment 6•13 years ago
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add filters that would match them in the spam settings section in Mailman
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Comment 7•13 years ago
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FWIW, if you choose to moderate anything coming from Google Groups, you can match that by looking at the header "Return-Path" which will contain the value "news@google.com" for messages posted via Google Groups. (similarly, that'll contain "poster@giganews.com" for stuff originating on news.mozilla.org)
Comment 8•13 years ago
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Spam is still appearing in this newsgroup. Today, I found two spam messages. Below are selected header fields from the message sources. Subject: Professional Web Sites Starting at $499 From: Angell EYE <josh@aewebsolutions.com> To: support-other@lists.mozilla.org Approved: support-other@lists.mozilla.org Message-ID: <mailman.2343.1300764244.4383.support-other@lists.mozilla.org> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:24:08 -0500 Subject: Job Fair Invitation Inside - May 23 From: "National Career Fairs" <exhibitors@ncfairs.com> To: support-other@lists.mozilla.org Approved: support-other@lists.mozilla.org Message-ID: <mailman.2368.1300800565.4383.support-other@lists.mozilla.org> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:29:25 -0500
Comment 9•13 years ago
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As of 13:00 PDT, there were four additional spam messages in mozilla.support.other. Between Monday and today, that makes six. In the previous 27 days, there were only four. That means there is more spam in this newsgroup than before moderation began. Is anyone really sure that mozilla.support.other is being moderated? Is SpamAssassin working?
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED → ---
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Comment 10•13 years ago
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Are not all messages going through spamassassin?
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Comment 11•13 years ago
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They are, twice in fact, we discovered when poking at it the other day. We just made some changes on Friday to the config, dropping the thresholds and so forth. Hopefully it's working better now.
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Comment 12•13 years ago
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There are a couple of spam messages that made it through today. I don't see any headers on them about a spam score. Would it help if I set the group to hold messages for now, so the original headers are available?
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Comment 13•13 years ago
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yeah, it might.
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Comment 14•13 years ago
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Ok, I've set <https://lists.mozilla.org/admin/support-other/?VARHELP=privacy/sender/generic_nonmember_action> to "Hold".
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Comment 15•13 years ago
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There are now three messages in the review cue at <https://lists.mozilla.org/admindb/support-other>, and I don't see any headers regarding spam score.
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Comment 16•13 years ago
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Yep, they were all less than 2 points so didn't get flagged. And they're not on the whitelist which is why they went into the moderator queue.
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Comment 17•13 years ago
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Looking at the last few spam messages to make it through, some have a spam score header: X-Spam-Score: 1.851 X-Spam-Score: 1.234 X-Spam-Score: 0.413 Some don't have a spam score header.
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Comment 18•13 years ago
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I'm going to close this out, as the stated task for this bug has been completed (making this group moderated). Lets continue to deal with the spam problems on the main "fix the newsgroup spam" bug as they're likely to affect all of the groups anyway and not just this one.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 13 years ago → 13 years ago
Component: Server Operations → Discussion Forums
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Comment 19•13 years ago
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This is not working. In May, 20 spam messages made it past the moderation and were posted to mozilla.support.other. This morning, there was another spam message. In the same period, not one on-topic message appeared in this newsgroup.
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Comment 20•13 years ago
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See bug 598060 comment 121, thanks. We need to filter based on something other than spam score.
Comment 21•13 years ago
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cilias: I'd encourage you to file a specific bug on that problem. Gerv
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Comment 22•13 years ago
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Filed bug 663318
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