Closed Bug 650440 Opened 13 years ago Closed 13 years ago

Change irc.mozilla.org MOTD

Categories

(mozilla.org Graveyard :: Server Operations, task)

Product:
mozilla.org Graveyard
Component:
Server Operations
Type:
task
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
minor

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED FIXED

People

(Reporter: Milos, Assigned: jabba)

References

(Blocks 1 open bug)

Details

MOTD on MozNet is really old. Can we please update it with more recent news and channels?
Have any suggestions?
Sure. I'd put this for now, just to remove all obsolete sources for info:

              M O Z I L L A   D O T   O R G
                 http://www.mozilla.org/
=================================================================
 Project Information:
================================================================= 
 Firefox     - Channel:     #firefox
               Web site:    http://mozilla.com
               Support:     http://support.mozilla.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Mobile      - Channel:     #mobile
               Web site:    http://mozillamessaging.com
               Support:     http://support.mozilla.com/mobile
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Thunderbird - Channel:     #thunderbird
               Web site:    http://mozilla.com
               Support:     http://support.mozillamessaging.com
=================================================================

 For a list of other helpful channels please visit
 http://irc.mozilla.org/ or use the /list command.
 Additional help with IRC at http://www.irchelp.org/

 This server is for use by Mozilla developers, testers, and
 users. If you are not one, please find another server.

 NOTICE: Your IP address will be portscanned by our open
 proxy tester.  See http://irc.mozilla.org/ for details.

 News:
  - Jan 31 2005 - Server now supports SSL on port 6697.
  - Feb 27 2005 - NickServ and ChanServ now online.
                  /nickserv help and /chanserv help for
                  more information.
(In reply to comment #2)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>  Thunderbird - Channel:     #thunderbird
>                Web site:    http://mozilla.com
>                Support:     http://support.mozillamessaging.com
> =================================================================

should be

 -----------------------------------------------------------------
  Thunderbird - Channel:     #thunderbird
                Web site:    http://www.mozillamessaging.com
                Support:     http://support.mozillamessaging.com
 =================================================================
web site for mobile is wrong, too.
Yeah, I just switched them around. So:

              M O Z I L L A   D O T   O R G
                 http://www.mozilla.org/
=================================================================
 Project Information:
================================================================= 
 Firefox     - Channel:     #firefox
               Web site:    http://mozilla.com
               Support:     http://support.mozilla.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Mobile      - Channel:     #mobile
               Web site:    http://mozilla.com/mobile
               Support:     http://support.mozilla.com/mobile
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Thunderbird - Channel:     #thunderbird
               Web site:    http://mozillamessaging.com
               Support:     http://support.mozillamessaging.com
=================================================================

 For a list of other helpful channels please visit
 http://irc.mozilla.org/ or use the /list command.
 Additional help with IRC at http://www.irchelp.org/

 This server is for use by Mozilla developers, testers, and
 users. If you are not one, please find another server.

 NOTICE: Your IP address will be portscanned by our open
 proxy tester.  See http://irc.mozilla.org/ for details.

 News:
  - Jan 31 2005 - Server now supports SSL on port 6697.
  - Feb 27 2005 - NickServ and ChanServ now online.
                  /nickserv help and /chanserv help for
                  more information.
Disclaimer:  I suck at ASCII art.

---..._____________ _ ___ _____ __ _ __   __ _ __ _ __ ___ __ ___ __ 
 .     .     .    _      ---...____   =-= =_-_= -= = _-= =_- -=- =-
 ___ __ _ _ _  __| |   .           ```---..__  -= =-=- - _-- =-_=  -
(_-</ _` | ' \/ _` |                  .      ```---... -=_ -=_ --_=
/__/\__,_|_||_\__,_|           .                      ```---... =- -
   .       .            .                     .         .      ```--
.        . .         .              .               .            .

____________________________________________________________________
          |          |  _        |      :    |           |
 __ ___ _ _  __ _ _ ___| |_ ___  |      ,    |           |
/ _/ _ \ ' \/ _| '_/ -_)  _/ -_) |      ,'   |           |
\__\___/_||_\__|_| \___|\__\___| |    ,'     |           |
          |          |           |    :      |           |
__________|__________|___________|___________|___________|__________


oOo.o.oo.oO.oOO..OoOo. _ .OoOoo...
 __ _ _ _ __ ___ _____| | oOo.o.oo...
/ _` | '_/ _` \ V / -_) | o.o.oooOo..oo
\__, |_| \__,_|\_/\___|_| o.ooOo.oooO..ooooo
|___/  .o.ooo...o.oo...ooo.o.oo.oooOOO.oOOOo.o
..oo.o.oOOO.oo.ooOOO.o.o.OOOooooOOOO....oOoOOOooooOO
Don't use http://mozilla.com/... it's a redirect to www.mozilla.com, which then redirects elsewhere.
(In reply to comment #7)
> Don't use http://mozilla.com/... it's a redirect to www.mozilla.com, which then
> redirects elsewhere.

But it takes less space and does eventually redirect to the right place.  I'm not sure the mozillamessaging URL will actually fit.
I think Paul would like to add some information here for new contributors.
Severity: major → normal
Severity: normal → minor
Priority: P3 → --
Ooh, very much so. Specifically, I'd like to direct new coding contributors to #introduction.

Also, as a person who has never seen the MOTD before, I'm a little confused by it. I can't tell what is in #firefox, #thunderbird and #mobile, or why I should go there.
FWIW, irc.mozilla.org misses some of the most popular channels, like #developers, #jsapi, #mobile, etc.
Just remember that the motd should be as brief as possible, since if you want people to actually see it, the important content needs to fit on one screen, as most people won't go into their scrollback to read it.
                 http://www.mozilla.org/

 This server is for use by Mozilla developers, testers, and
 users. If you are not one, please find another server.

 NOTICE: Your IP address will be portscanned by our open
 proxy tester.  See http://irc.mozilla.org/ for details.

================================================================= 
Support;
 Firefox       #firefox     http://support.mozilla.com
 Mobile        #mobile      http://support.mozilla.com/mobile
 Thunderbird   #thunderbird http://support.mozillamessaging.com

Help for new contributors:
   #introduction     http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Introduction
=================================================================

 For a list of other helpful channels please visit
 http://irc.mozilla.org/ or use the /list command.
 Additional help with IRC at http://www.irchelp.org/
I'm not sure if we want to list #jsapi, #developers, #bmo, etc. Those are pretty specialized channels I think. But there is a lot of space left in the design above - I don't think we need the stern warning or the port-scan notice. We can just refer people to http://irc.mozilla.org for T&C.
Oh, I'm fine with the MOTD not listing #developers et al, but I think irc.mozilla.org should list them.
(In reply to comment #14)
> I'm not sure if we want to list #jsapi, #developers, #bmo, etc. Those are
> pretty specialized channels I think. But there is a lot of space left in the
> design above - I don't think we need the stern warning or the port-scan notice.
> We can just refer people to http://irc.mozilla.org for T&C.

Portscan notice needs to be there, we can't remove that.  That was the whole idea of that website was to be a more broad source of information.
I'm unclear of which channels we want to be directing people into. For example, I thought #firefox, #mobile and #thunderbird were developer channels? Who is the MOTD targeting, developers or support, or both? Have we got support channels?
What's our action? I think we all agree the MOTD should be just enough information to describe what the network is and help someone randomly connecting to find more information. I'd suggest a big link to the wiki page with all the info and whatever policies need to be stated. For 99.99% of irc users, the MOTD is meaningless and never gets read. For everyone else that actually reads it, it means they are new and should be directed towards the wiki page anyway.
Assignee: server-ops → jdow
(In reply to comment #17)
> I'm unclear of which channels we want to be directing people into. For example,
> I thought #firefox, #mobile and #thunderbird were developer channels? Who is
> the MOTD targeting, developers or support, or both? Have we got support
> channels?

From my experience, #firefox is not a developer channel (that would be #developers or #fx-team) but a support channel, and #mobile is a mixture of both.
How about the below. I don't know if we want that information, but it's no worse than what was there before, I think.


              M O Z I L L A   D O T   O R G
                 http://www.mozilla.org/

================================================================= 
 This server is for use by Mozilla developers, testers, and
 users. If you are not one, please find another server.

 NOTICE: Your IP address will be portscanned by our open
 proxy tester.  See http://irc.mozilla.org/ for details.

================================================================= 
Project information:
 Firefox       #firefox     http://support.mozilla.com
 Mobile        #mobile      http://support.mozilla.com/mobile
 Thunderbird   #thunderbird http://support.mozillamessaging.com

Help for new contributors:
   #introduction     http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Introduction
=================================================================

 For a list of other helpful channels please visit
 http://irc.mozilla.org/ or use the /list command.
 Additional help with IRC at http://www.irchelp.org/
Blocks: contrib-engagement
What about

SeaMonkey     #seamonkey   http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

and depending on what kind of users you want to target:
You got a problem with SeaMonkey?
    http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey
    nntp://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey
    there's also a mailing list (the address escapes me)
        all three mirror each other

You want to help develop SeaMonkey?
    http://dev.seamonkey.at/

BTW, the "Mobile" and "Thunderbird" support addresses in comment #20 seem to have been swapped.
and here the first and last URLs in comment #21 got swapped -- I wonder how that happened.
...well, no, they didn't. Oh, well, forget the bugspam.
I updated to a mixture of comment 20 and comment 6. I think this is sufficient and all further information should be maintained on the wiki.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 13 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Product: mozilla.org → mozilla.org Graveyard
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