72176 - Personal Toolbar items should not use the hand cursor

Status: VERIFIED WONTFIX

(SeaMonkey :: UI Design, defect)

Description

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

This is a spinoff of bug 67761.

Quoting from there:

------- Additional Comments From Matthew Thomas (not reading Bugzilla a.t.m.,
e-mail me if necessary) 2001-03-03 19:59 -------

If Personal Toolbar items use the hand cursor on Windows, that should be filed
as a separate bug. None of the following should use the pointing hand cursor:
*   the Back button
*   the Forward button
*   the Home button
*   the throbber
*   items in the main menus which take you to an URL (e.g. Release Notes, items
    in the Bookmarks menu)
*   items in the Bookmarks menu in the Personal Toolbar
*   other items in the Personal Toolbar.

The pointing hand cursor should only ever be used for content, not chrome.

Comment 1

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

Attachment: Patch to make personal toolbar items use the default cursor

Comment 2

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

Hewitt, could you please review the patch?

Comment 3

[[e-mail]]

Why not remove the styles completely, allowing global styles to take effect?

Comment 4

[Joe Hewitt (gone)]

Bookmarks in the personal toolbar are designed to use the pointing hand cursor,
so this is really a WONTFIX.

Comment 5

[ratman]

is there a "4xp" issue involved here, i.e., consistency with netscape 4.x? 
after all, ns4.x used a normal cursor for both personal toolbar and bookmark
elements.

should this bug be reopened and widened to include both elements?  if not, is
there a reason for the lack of consistency other than "we like it better this way"?

i may be able to buy the argument of using hand cursors over all urls, but that
doesn't explain why both the main bookmarks folder and other bookmarks folders
use hand cursors as well.

Comment 6

[Matthew T (active 1999-2002)]

4xp is not a *particularly* good reason to do something as detailed as minute 
as cursors, because 4.x often didn't get these sorts of details right ...

But yes, it is true that 4.x didn't use a hand cursor for bookmarks in the 
Personal Toolbar, or the throbber, or anywhere else in the chrome. And given 
that (in the default theme) bookmarks in Seamonkey's Personal Toolbar look 
almost exactly the same as those in 4.x's Personal Toolbar, Hewitt's claim that 
`Bookmarks in the personal toolbar are designed to use the pointing hand 
cursor' seems rather dubious.

And no, bookmarks in the main Bookmarks window should not (and do not) use a 
pointing hand cursor either.

Comment 7

[ratman]

i agree that 4xp may not be sufficient claim for this bug if taken out of
context, but the real question would be why the original functionality of the
browser was changed in the first place - after all, at some point *someone*
deemed it necessary to change the cursor type used when mousing over chrome
elements.  i mean, is there a good reason why this changed?

i should think that changing default settings would require the burden of proof
of necessity, rather than the other way around.

once again requesting reopen.

Comment 8

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

mass-verifying WontFix bugs which haven't changed since 2001-12-31.

use the search string "BoletusEdulis" if you want to filter out this msg.