78209 - w3.org - XML page does not render properly

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: English US, defect, P1)

Description

[jay garcia]

Win98SE Latest Nightly Build

Site does not render properly in XML

Comment 1

[Doron Rosenberg (IBM)]

ie5 seems to not like that page too...

Comment 2

[Carlos Araya]

Jay

Reason why it doesn't look ok is because there's no stylesheet attached to the
document so there's no way for Mozilla to know how to display it. Also, IE
chokes on localy defined entities (happened on both a Mac and a PC runnin 2000)

Comment 3

[jay garcia]

How come NONE of these work: 

   http://www.ceth.rutgers.edu/intromat/xml/samples3/samples.htm

Comment 4

[Matthias Versen [:Matti]]

-> XML

Comment 5

[Heikki Toivonen (remove -bugzilla when emailing directly)]

I tried one of the rutgers testcases and did not notice anything immediately
wrong (XML doc had XSLT stylesheet which existed and was served with the correct
mime type). I'll let the XSLT people check this one out.

The W3C page is evangelism issue (they are serving us raw XML without stylesheet).

Comment 6

[Axel Hecht]

moving to evangelism.
the rutgers pages use a deprecated namespace, belonging to a proprietary 
implementation of a working draft. Hence the WD in the URL.
They should fix their files to conform to the w3c XSLT spec.

Comment 7

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

I think the w3 issue is a dupe, the rutgers thing is a separate bug. File that
if you think it is needed.

Comment 8

[Axel Hecht]

cleaning up the whiteboard to make this w3 only

Comment 9

[gsa]

mac build id : 2001112011

this XML page doesn't render properly either

http://www.hoise.com/primeur/analysis/top500/database/top500-200111.xml

Comment 10

[gsa]

mac build id : 2001112011 (aka mozilla 0.9.6 release)

this XML page doesn't render

http://www.hoise.com/primeur/analysis/top500/database/top500-200111.xml

Comment 11

[Axel Hecht]

hoise.com is a separate issue. They send text/plain mime-type. (of course, 
the hoise page wouldn't have any styling as well, even sent as text/xml)
This one is about unstyled xml at w3.org.

Comment 12

[Axel Hecht]

Fabian found a good one:
http://www.w3.org/DOM/faq sends just a XSLT stylesheet. Not even the xml source.

Any better way to get traction on this than to mail to [e-mail] ?

Comment 13

[Christopher Aillon (sabbatical, not receiving bugmail)]

*** Bug 116611 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 14

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

This page displays as plain text in Mozilla, will not display at all in IE5.5
due to IE's limitations. As far as I am concerned they present raw xml data and
we treat it as such. What is the evangelism issue with this particular page?

The overall issue of the configuration of w3's servers to appropriately serve
the appropriate content to Mozilla is a larger issue which I would rather
approach from a top down approach rather than deal with their site one document
at a time.

Who has contacts at the w3 so we can pursue the server configuration issue?

Comment 15

[Katsuhiko Momoi]

> Who has contacts at the w3 so we can pursue the server configuration issue?

The last time we had this same issue with W3C server, I believe
Daniel Gladman and Heikki contacted them. 

Comment 16

[Peter Van der Beken [:peterv]]

Is there a way to get to that version of the XML spec through a link that
doesn't clearly say "XML"? As far as I'm concerned sending raw non-styled XML is
ok if it's clearly labeled as XML. I don't think the W3C needs to provide
stylesheets for the raw XML versions of their specs since those are only used to
produce the styled versions. People might find it useful to have these documents
so linking to them is still ok too imo.
For http://www.w3.org/DOM/faq, they should be sending us an XML file that links
to the stylesheet. XSLT 2.0 says that "Implementors may provide a mechanism that
supplies a default document, containing just a document node with no children,
as the principal source document to be used in the absence of any other source
document." but this is a XSLT 1.0 stylesheet so sending us only the stylesheet
won't work. I'm sending mail to the W3C webmaster and will CC the Chair of the
DOM WG.

Comment 17

[Ajay Gautam]

Any progress on this ?

I am came across http://www.w3.org/DOM/faq and serached for this bug. The last
post here is in April.

This page seems to be working ok in IE 5.5

Thanks

Comment 18

[Peter Van der Beken [:peterv]]

http://www.w3.org/DOM/faq.xml now is a raw XML page referencing a non-existing
CSS stylesheet.

Comment 19

[Peter Van der Beken [:peterv]]

BTW, http://www.w3.org/DOM/faq is handled in bug 153685.

Comment 20

[Peter Van der Beken [:peterv]]

http://www.w3.org/DOM/faq is now fixed.

Comment 21

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

Ok. My position is this is XML without a style sheet and we are doing the right
thing and so is the W3. We have other issues where they can change to better
serve content but this isn't one of them. -> WFM