792671 - Fix mozilla.education to be on news server and have Google Group

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(mozilla.org :: Discussion Forums, task)

Description

[David Teller [:Yoric] - still alive but not very active]

At the moment, mozilla.education is purely a mailing-list and not a newsgroup. However, the link at https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/education points to the Google newsgroup archive, which is incorrect.

We should either make mozilla.education a newsgroup or provide a correct list to archives.

Comment 1

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

We should get mozilla.education fixed up. This issue was noted in bug 765169 but because that bug is resolved and a new one was not filed, it must have dropped off the radar. 

Let's start with server-ops, who will probably send it to mburns. If it turns out we need to pull in our Google contact, we can. If it turns out it can't be fixed, we can decide what to do then.

Gerv

Comment 2

[David Teller [:Yoric] - still alive but not very active]

This is something of a blocker for me, as I cannot properly announce the return of mozilla.education to potential participants before we (at least) have archives.

Comment 3

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

This is waiting on Google Groups, who I followed-up with last week after some back-and-forth and they are working to fix their system. It should be resolved this week.

Alternatively, this would be fixed with bug 770423, which is on hold until we can roll custom .rpm's of Mailman in a sane way again. I'll see if we can jostle that project back into gear.

Comment 4

[David Teller [:Yoric] - still alive but not very active]

Still no signs of life from Google Groups?

Comment 5

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

I wish I had better news to report. Google Groups is aware of the status of the newsgroup, and we have requested it be re-enabled in the site. I was given confirmation on nov 20th that it is 'in the system' but the process involves an additional staging before going live, which seems to be where this has gotten stuck in limbo.

I'll ask for an updated status.

Comment 6

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

This appears to be fixed. Waiting to confirm..

Comment 7

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

Our two points of contact at Google have not replied to my emails. I just pinged them again. Not sure how to move this forward.

Comment 8

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

As part of the Q1 projects, lists.mozilla.org will provide its own Archives, similar to mail.mozilla.org does now.

That won't resolve the problem (of a broken Google Groups link), but it will fulfill part of the original request in comment 0.

Comment 9

[Shyam Mani [:fox2mike]]

This is completely out of our hands. I'll ask Michael to contact Google again, but this is out of our purview at this point. Since lists are doing and working, I'm going to close this out for now.

Comment 10

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

I might have spoke too soon. My follow-up email was responded to after I looped Fox2mike in.

"I was on vacation last week, I'll file a bug to look into this.  I think the last stage is still not fully automated at this point, hence why this isn't just working."

-- googler

Comment 11

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

hehe, ok, sorry for the bugspam today.

We're going to hold out hope this will work and keep the bug open a bit longer. Thanks for your patience Yoric.

Comment 12

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

I see a post on the 8th to the newsgroup still has not propagated to Google Groups, yet. There is a bug on Google's side for this, but the final step(s?) are manual..

Comment 13

[Michael Burns [:mburns]]

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.education/2UbNsPwrJpA

I've just seen a post show up on mozilla.education! It was spam (I flagged it), but the bits are flowing. Cheers!