Closed Bug 796528 Opened 12 years ago Closed 10 years ago

[Statusbar] Make roaming triangle icon standalone

Categories

(Firefox OS Graveyard :: Gaia::System, defect)

Product:
Firefox OS Graveyard
Component:
Gaia::System
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(blocking-basecamp:-)

Status:
RESOLVED INVALID
Project Flags:
blocking-basecamp -

People

(Reporter: ghtobz, Assigned: gbrander)

Details

(Whiteboard: [label:needsUXinput][label:system/statusbar][label:needsVISUALinput][label:polish][LOE:S]) 

[GitHub issue by mounirlamouri on 2012-08-24T17:37:14Z, https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/issues/3801]
*Original title:* What is that small thing on top of my mobile connection indicator?

When I plug my SIM card in my otoro phone, on top of my mobile connection indicator, there is a small thing. It looks more like a pixel soup than anything so I have no idea what it is expected to show. Is that used to tell me I'm roaming?
[GitHub comment by nhirata on 2012-08-24T17:53:58Z]
@mounirlamouri  Can you place a screenshot please?
[GitHub comment by mounirlamouri on 2012-08-24T17:58:08Z]
How can I do that from my Otoro?
[GitHub comment by nhirata on 2012-08-24T18:08:03Z]
hold down the home + power button and it should screenshot.  you can then do a adb pull /sdcard/DCIM/screenshots/ to get the screenshots.

Or the other way is to use ddms (android sdk/tools) and use the screenshot button after selecting the device.
[GitHub comment by mounirlamouri on 2012-08-24T18:23:52Z]
http://people.mozilla.org/~mlamouri/device-2012-08-24-111947.png
See the thing that looks like an arrow ...
[GitHub comment by nhirata on 2012-08-24T18:25:54Z]
oh wierd.  Thanks for the screenshot.  that's the first time I have seen that.  I think it may be a roaming signal, as I haven't gotten roaming yet and wasn't sure how to test it at the moment.
[GitHub comment by mounirlamouri on 2012-08-24T18:27:25Z]
If that's a roaming signal, it's VERY bad because it feels like a "uploading" signal (at least, that's the one used in Android) and while roaming you really want to not use data...
[GitHub comment by nhirata on 2012-08-24T18:33:50Z]
Valid point.  @jcarpenter
[GitHub comment by jcarpenter on 2012-08-24T18:39:35Z]
FWIW, a triangle is the standard icon for indicating roaming. Do a quick images search for Roaming indicator :) 

Personally I prefer the clarity of an "R", but that doesn't translate.
[GitHub comment by mounirlamouri on 2012-08-24T18:54:07Z]
I wouldn't be so sure of that... What I see in Google Images is Windows and old versions of Android having a *big* triangle in the status bar to indicate roaming. Some older phones use "RM". And Android 2.x (and maybe 4.0) is using a 'R' icon. iOS and Android 4.1 seems to have no indicator at all.

The issue is that you are using a confusing icon that happens to be exactly the one Android is using to indicate data upload... That is going to scare anybody who used an Android phone.
IMO, we should whether use an R or have no indicator.
[GitHub comment by jcarpenter on 2012-08-27T07:02:33Z]
Hmm, I'd be game for switching to a big triangle instead of a little one. We can also talk w/ TEF about using an "R". That's also what I prefer, but I'm an english-speaker.
[GitHub comment by rafaelrebolleda on 2012-08-27T14:07:23Z]
I'm all for going with "R" too. In an unofficial research with the team, nobody has understood the triangle and most people expected the "R". FWIW, "roaming" is standard wording in Spain; I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case in latam. 

Obviously, this is not the ultimate rationale, but at least it may shed some light.
[GitHub comment by mounirlamouri on 2012-08-27T14:10:25Z]
We use "roaming" very commonly in France too.

FWIW, I've been able to get the R on my Android phone (don't know why, it's showing up randomly) and I switched to various languages and it was still an R.
[GitHub comment by nhirata on 2012-08-27T19:42:07Z]
Just a fyi, I found the req, I think I like "R" myself... [ https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/8/85/Gaia_StatusBar_20120724.pdf ]  Is there any language that doesn't use R?
[GitHub comment by timdream on 2012-08-27T20:10:15Z]
R is language specific, I have always suggest we use a globe icon instead.
[GitHub comment by jcarpenter on 2012-08-30T16:38:59Z]
How about "R" for latin alphabet languages, and triangle for others?
[GitHub comment by timdream on 2012-08-30T17:20:00Z]
> How about "R" for latin alphabet languages, and triangle for others?

@jcarpenter even for Latin alphabet languages I am not convinced all of them are **R** for roaming. Also keeping a table to figure out whether or not a language is Latin alphabet based is probably not a good idea.
[GitHub comment by jcarpenter on 2012-09-11T04:14:28Z]
Ok, final UX call here: lets replace the current indicator with a stand-alone triangle. It solves our legibility problem, is language neutral, and appears to be the internationally recognized standard. In future versions we can look at swapping in an "R" in on a market-by-market basis.

FWIW, the UR team indicates that very few of our target market are ever in roaming mode. Those who did travel (we interviewed one fellow who transports goods between cities, for example) bought a dedicated SIM cards for each region.

@PeterLa Can you create an icon for this?
@timdream We should position this immediately to the left of the signal strength indicators.

I think it's also safe to say that this is purely polish pass. Low priority.
[GitHub comment by PeterLa on 2012-09-18T21:49:16Z]
@jcarpenter Assigning to myself for icon creation.
[GitHub comment by PeterLa on 2012-09-19T15:45:38Z]
@jcarpenter @timdream I replaced the old roaming icon with a triangle in the icons.png file and saved it as a new file.  Tim, if you're ok with the position of the icon in the file, you can just rename it to icons.png.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3slyolni1ybna0y/icons-new_roaming.png
[GitHub comment by timdream on 2012-09-20T02:45:57Z]
Reassign to me.
Tim, I believe this is complete?
Component: Gaia → Gaia::System
(In reply to Josh Carpenter [:jcarpenter] from comment #21)
> Tim, I believe this is complete?

No. Since this is blocking-, you should ask gbrander to do this.
Okay, thanks Tim, good to know.
:gbrander are you taking this?
Assignee: timdream+bugs → gbrander
Talked about this with a brazilian friend: he doesn't know what roaming is. However they use "deslocamento", but this also designates the situation where the user is outside of his local zone, not necessarily a foreign country, so I'm not sure this is like roaming.
closing bug since this has already been addressed by separating the roaming icon from the signal icon.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
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