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Bug 79988
Opened 23 years ago
Updated 2 years ago
change default for newsgroups to be configured for offline use
Categories
(MailNews Core :: Networking: NNTP, enhancement)
MailNews Core
Networking: NNTP
Tracking
(Not tracked)
NEW
People
(Reporter: mark.slater, Unassigned)
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Build: 2001050915, Win32-installer Each time a usenet message is selected, it will be downloaded from the server, regardless of whether it's been downloaded before. Shouldn't the post (including any attachments) be cached? Reproducibility: every time Steps to reproduce: 1. Visit any usenet group 2. Read any message 3. Close mailnews 4. Restart mailnews, revisit usenet group 5. Click on already read message actual results: Although the message has already been read, it is downloaded from the server again. expected results: moznews should've cached the message the first time, then pull it from the cache on subsequent reading of the same message. I looked for the bug on this to check if it's already been reported, as it seems such an obvious bug. Couldn't find it tho :(
Comment 1•23 years ago
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I don't think this is all hooked up yet, did it work before? I can force it to download all the messages by selecting the folder for download and going offline, but I can't get it to work the way you expect it to work (which it probably should) confirming
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Comment 2•23 years ago
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closing down mailnews is probably releasing / clearing out the cache. that might be by design.
Assignee: sspitzer → bienvenu
Outlook Express keeps a database file of Newsgroup articles. That way only new, unread messages are needed to be downloaded. Is it possible for MailNews to do that? Would make things work much faster.
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Comment 4•23 years ago
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wdormann: actually, that's exactly what i was trying to get at with my initial comment on the bug :)
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Comment 5•23 years ago
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Seth: Actually, my initial "Steps to reproduce" was a bit misleading. Try this: 1) Select news post (download, read) 2) Select next news post (download, read) 3) Select news post read in number 1, and it will download it again
Comment 6•23 years ago
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we have a news cache. it seems to be working for me on news.mozilla.org is your news account on a server that requires authentication?
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Comment 7•23 years ago
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Actually, i was testing this on news.mozilla.org. every time i choose an article, it gets downloaded again. on articles with attachments i have to wait for a long time for it to appear, with mozilla obviously connecting to the server and downloading the post.
Comment 8•23 years ago
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do you have any special cache settings? Edit | Prefs | Advanced | Cache
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Comment 9•23 years ago
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I don't think so, altho i don't have the latest build here at home (i reported this bug from work, where i got the latest available win32 build). But it has ALWAYS appeared that way for me. click on message - download. regardless of build, regardless of whether i'd read the message beforehand or not.
Comment 10•23 years ago
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Never mind... News cacheing works for me.
Comment 11•23 years ago
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we only cache messages less than 50K, I believe. I suspect this bug is invalid.
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Comment 12•23 years ago
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Okok, how about a preference for message cache then? Re-Downloading larger messages really isn't that much fun, especially for ppl who don't have permanent high-bandwidth connections...
Comment 13•23 years ago
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you know, I lied about there being a 50K limit to the size of messages we put in the memory cache (the memory cache is limited to 1MB, I think) - I was thinking of the offline cache. This might be a dup of or related to a bug mscott recently fixed having to do with whether we would get attachments from the memory cache.
Comment 14•23 years ago
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wait a minute - are you expecting us to cache the message bodies and retain them after you shut down the app? If so, you need to tell us to do that by selecting the newsgroup for offline use. We don't do it by default (which is not a bug).
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Comment 15•23 years ago
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OK, that's exactly what I meant. So if that's not a bug, maybe an RFE? Because for everyday users, they'll look at outlook express, and, comparing it to mozilla mailnews, they'll think OE performs better because it keeps all the downloaded messages. I have a funny feeling there's a bug lurking somewhere where this has all been discussed in great detail already...
Comment 16•23 years ago
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at the cost of eating up disk space - OK, I'll change it to an RFE and move it to future.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 23 years ago
Priority: -- → P5
Resolution: --- → INVALID
Summary: Read newsposts aren't cached. → RFE- Cache read newsposts on disk
Target Milestone: --- → Future
Comment 17•23 years ago
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Reopening and changing severity to Enhancement. I believe that is what you meant by changing it to RFE.
Severity: normal → enhancement
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: INVALID → ---
Comment 18•23 years ago
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yes, sorry, that is what I meant to do.
Comment 19•23 years ago
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*** Bug 90939 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 20•23 years ago
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I had searched but didnt find this bug because I was loking for the word "saved" and not "cached." Anyway I'm a bit worried about the Target Milestone: FUTURE. I think this is very important especially if anyone is going to use mozilla as a all in one internet application, especially a news reader. 56ks are quite common and mozilla is already too slow at downloading both mail and news to have to go through this all the time. A milestone of no later than 1.0 would be best. Afterall the final version should be feature complete with regards to all basic features and this is one such basic feature.
*** Bug 90934 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 22•21 years ago
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See also bug 178594 and bug 176740
Updated•20 years ago
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Product: MailNews → Core
Comment 24•16 years ago
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Worthwhile: probably Difficult: probably not too hard Status: I doubt bienvenu's working on it Priority: Low, I'm afraid.
Assignee: bienvenu → nobody
Status: REOPENED → NEW
Priority: P5 → --
QA Contact: stephend → networking.news
Hardware: PC → All
Summary: RFE- Cache read newsposts on disk → Place read news messages in offline storage
Target Milestone: Future → ---
Comment 25•16 years ago
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all this would mean is changing the default for newsgroups to be "configured for offline use", which is trivial.
Comment 26•16 years ago
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changing summary - once Emre's on idle compact stuff is done, these newsgroup offline stores should be compacted on idle as well.
Summary: Place read news messages in offline storage → change default for newsgroups to be configured for offline use
Comment 27•16 years ago
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But wouldn't that try to sync them when going offline too? That could be ok too at times, but very slow if you're in a hurry.
Comment 28•16 years ago
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we don't do any kind of auto sync when you go offline, unless you ask us to...
Comment 29•16 years ago
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Yes, I meant if I want it for mails, but not all my low-priority newsgroups that could take many minutes to dl :)
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Updated•16 years ago
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Product: Core → MailNews Core
Updated•2 years ago
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Severity: normal → S3
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