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I use the standard English language WindowsME (the US edition) with "Polish (programmers)" keyboard as the default. Using any Polish letter in Mozilla mail changes "Polish (programmers)" keyboard setting to "Polish", meaning the Right-Alt-letter for the Polish characters no longer works and even more annoyingly the letters "y" and "z" are exchanged. Reproductibility: every time. Steps to reproduce: 1. Choose Polish (programmers) as your default keyboard and email composition to Central European (ISO-8859-2) - the default settings for Polish users of Mozilla 2. Open Mozilla 20010509 3. Start writing an email (check that you type Mozilla as Mozilla0 4. Use Right-Alt-[a s c o l z x] (one of the letters) 5. Check if you type now Mozilla as Moyilla Actual results: Mozilla actually changes the mapping. It shows in Control Panel -> Keyboard -> Language as "Polish" instead of "Polish (programmers)". The visible results: "z" exchanged with "y", Right-Alt-letter does not produce the Polish signs, they are now accessible by keys like "; ' [ ]" Expected results: Using Right-Alt-a,s,c,o,l,z,x should result in writing a Polish letter. The letters z and y are where you exectthem on an English/American keyboard. The keyboard mapping is "Polish (programmers)". Additional information: orkaround: Change in Control Panel -> Keyboard -> Language -> Properties "Polish" to "Polish (programmers)". It needs to be done only once per session (Mozilla does not do it the second time) and luckily does not require a reboot. It is probable that it happens with other languages that use Righ-Alt- for some of their national characters (Czech?). Sometimes I managed to achieve this result by just sending an email (even with no Polish national signs) I mark it Major as it is a big problem such the users in Poland and probably several other countries (especially as we use the letters "y" and "z" a lot). However, I'm afraid some of the rest of you will probably want to make it Normal or even less :-(
I'll add thatbthis is a recent regression. It did not happen prior to Mozilla 0.9, neither on trunk or the 0.9 branch.
Does this problem happen when you type in URL bar?
Typing in URL field. Well, I'm not sure whether I undrstand you. The answer depends on what you are actually asking. - No, as URLs should not use national characters like ????ó???. That's why I did not test it. It isnot possible to ht this bug in normal use by typing (for example) Ctr-Alt-a in the URL field as there are no URL using such characters. - Yes, *after* the keyboard mapping is changed, it happens in every window and application, including Mozilla URL field. Actually I have problems repoducing the error on a different machine (same WimME, same keyboard settings, same Mozilla settings0 using 2001050910 and all later builds do not work at all (crashes while reading mail or starting Mozilla not related to this bug). I'll check in a few minutes if the same build 2001050905 I used on the original host will reproduce the bug here.
Thanks. What I'm suspecting is that it could be a browser generic problem, not only limited to mail composition window. If that's true, it could happen on some other widgets, like URL bar, or search field on http://home.netscape.com. Could you try the same steps on the search field on http://home.netscape.com?
When this happens on mail composition window, does it happen in subject field or mail body area? Could you please try it on HTML composer too? Thanks.
I cannot repoduce the error at all with the other almost identical PC (same OS, same settings, same Mozilla). It's highly frustrating. I'll try widgets, search window, URL bar in the afternoon on the original PC with this problem. BTW, I've never seen an applcation change the Windows keyboard language settings - working on a similar setups (Enlish windows, Polish programmers keyboard) for the last 6 years.
I could not get this effect with URL fields, search windows etc. Sending myself an email with some Central European characters made the difference. Atually, contrary to my "steps to reproduce", this time the swich happened not exactly at the moment of entering the message text, rather around receiving it (I kept typing "z" every few seconds in a notepad window to catch the moment).
Did you say that after you received the mail which was typed using "Polish (programmers)" keyboard, the keyboard mapping has changed to "Polish"?
Yes, and this is the reason for "weird" in the subject. I now know that just reading the offending message is enough to change the keyboard setting. I'll attch the message. Mozilla, it seems does not change anything I can find in the registry, but Control Panel |Keyboard | Languages shows the wrong setting just after reading the message. Why? I believe the reason is I have two entries in the registry: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\preload\1] @="00000415" (this is "Polish") and [HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\keyboard layout\preload\1] @="00010415" This is "Polish programmers". It seems Mozilla reads the former and this changes something in the system. I know they should be probably the same and this could be more an error of WindowsME than Mozilla but how many users will be able to find and correct this?
After more tests I am convinced that the registry setting [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\preload\1] @="00000415" together with another I skipped before: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\substitutes\00000415] @="00010415" are OK, that is they make sure the system knows it should use 00010415, not 00000415. Does Mozilla access the first somehow, ignoring the second and as a result makes the system believe it should use 00000415 as the keyboard setting?
Well, after some more tests with 2001051104 build, I decided that you are right, it is not a mailnews bug. I can reproduce it now without opening the mail window. It's possible that touching the URL field (or other text field) is necessary. I will probably close down this bug and open another (to decrease the spam factor).
I close this as a dup of a new bug 80274. This one has a misleading description (sorry). I think I now understand much better what is going on, specially that this is not a mailnews bug, after all. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 80274 ***
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 17 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
Verified as such.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
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