View > Text Zoom does not affect printed font size




Printing: Output
17 years ago
9 years ago


(Reporter: jsp, Assigned: rods (gone))



Windows 2000

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17 years ago
From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010505
BuildID:    2001050515

If you change the display size of fonts with the View > Text Size menu item, it
has no effect on the font size used when printing.  This may be an accessibility
issue: it's much easier to find and change this menu item than the font size
preferences item.  (Changing the pref does change the printed font size,
though.)  Even if it's deemed not to be a problem for accessibility, it is a bit
surprising. FWIW, IE scales both screen and printer text when its View > Text
Size menu item is changed.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Load and print a page. will do.
2. Use View > Text Size to select a different text size.
3. Print the page again.

Actual Results:  The two printouts are identical.

Expected Results:  The second printout should have had a different font size
than the first.
ccing mpt for UI thougts on this one.

It seems odd to me that something under the View menu would affect printed output.

Comment 2

17 years ago
I have mixed feelings about this myself. As a programmer, I think "The View menu
pertains to the screen, not the printer." But as a user, having increased the
font size, I find myself mildly surprised when the font size on the printout is
unchanged. I certainly wouldn't rate this as a clear-cut problem that requires
an immediate fix. In fact, on further reflection I can see a couple of reasons
to leave things as they are:

1) Unlike IE, Opera behaves pretty much the way Mozilla does. If you set the
font size pref, it affects the font size of printed documents. If you set the
"document zoom value" (like text size, except that it affects everything in the
document, including graphics), it has no effect on printed documents. Opera
retains the zoom value when restarted; Mozilla forgets the text size.

2) My primary concern is accessibility. Since Mozilla doesn't retain the text
size setting when restarted, users who need or want the larger or smaller text
on an ongoing basis will probably set the font size preference, which will
adjust the printed font size.

Bottom line: I want Mozilla to do The Right Thing, but I'm not quite sure what
that is, so I raised the question. I probably should have done so on the
mozilla-accessibility list. I just now posted a message there.

Comment 3

17 years ago
Marking NEW.
Ever confirmed: true

Comment 4

17 years ago
personally i'd expect a view>text size in print preview to affect the printed 
document. But the future of View>Text Size for browser is as View>Zoom, which i 
would most certainly _not_ expect to affect a printed document.

So i'd suggest we work on implementing print preview =)

Comment 5

17 years ago
This is true because the View->Text size affects the current presentation, and 
printing gets its own presentation.  In order to do this.. we need to be able to 
get the current font scaling for the presentation on the screen.. then set the 
presentation for the print presentation.  I will give this to Marc for further 
triage on this issue.  Marc I looked for a way to set and get the font size but 
nothing jumped out at me, if you find something let me know.
Assignee: dcone → attinasi
Reassigning to rod. Addeding keyword: access.
Assignee: attinasi → rods
Keywords: access
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla1.0.1


16 years ago
Priority: -- → P1
Target Milestone: mozilla1.0.1 → Future

Comment 7

16 years ago
*** Bug 128034 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***


16 years ago
Summary: View > Text Size does not affect printed font size → View > Text Zoom does not affect printed font size


16 years ago
Priority: P1 → P2

Comment 8

16 years ago
I am going to mark this "Won't fix", we now can "scale" in PrintPreview and in
Printing. And a bug where Zoom was messing up PP has been fixed. We view (no pun
intended) Zoom as screen only thing and Scale can be used for enlarging or
shrinking the page.
Last Resolved: 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX

Comment 9

16 years ago
Fair enough, I guess. At some point it would be good to rationalize the
feature set here: in one context you zoom (text only), in another you
scale (every element). At least users now have some control over size in
both rendering contexts.

From an acessibility perspective, it's most important that the font size
preference be respected whether rendering to the screen or the printer. This
remains true, as long as shrink to fit is off. I think it should be off by
default, partly so Mozilla behaves well for those with visual limitations,
partly because I happen to think scaling to 100% by default is less astonishing.
Not having seen the new drop-down scaling widget yet, I don't know how it behaves.

Comment 10

16 years ago

Comment 11

16 years ago
*** Bug 154376 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 12

16 years ago
*** Bug 172267 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 13

13 years ago
*** Bug 276408 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 14

13 years ago
*** Bug 298312 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 15

13 years ago
*** Bug 275293 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 16

13 years ago
*** Bug 261088 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 17

12 years ago
I have my minimun font size set to 16, so when printing, I always find that the text is often too small because of this bug. It makes printing annoying. Scale is an useless option since it just truncates text most of the time.

And ..

IE SUPPORTS THIS FEATURE !! (I admit it's buggy though =)


10 years ago
Duplicate of this bug: 428707

Comment 19

9 years ago
I confirm that print w scale>100% truncates text still on Firefox 3.0.7.
Printing is not accomodating visually challenged users. 
Some websites have extremely small fonts or very wide layouts that shrink 50% or truncate.
If you want to add a new feature to fix this bug that is fine - please re open this bug - you could even rename the bug to 'Can't set min print font size in print preview' if you like - these comments still apply,  7 duplicated bugs and counting.

Comment 20

9 years ago
I don't think this bug is going to get reopened.  It is specifically about whether text zoom affects printed output, and the decision was a clear "no."

Text truncation when the Print Preview scale feature is used is another issue, and there are already bugs for it (like bug 205001 and bug 339043).  In my experience, scaling works well when pages are designed to scale.  Absolute positioning seems to be a cause of scaling problems, which doesn't much surprise me, though bugs in Gecko may make the situation worse than necessary.

If you want to suggest a new feature to improve the accessibility of Firefox's printed output, I'd recommend creating a new bug that says specifically what the problem is and what your proposed solution is.  Be sure to say why existing options (like the minimum font size in the advanced font configuration) are inadequate.
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