make http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/ reference firefox-dev@mozilla.org mailing list rather than mozilla.dev.apps.firefox

RESOLVED FIXED

Status

RESOLVED FIXED
6 years ago
6 years ago

People

(Reporter: Gavin, Assigned: gerv)

Tracking

Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)

Details

"firefox-dev" is a new mailing list intended to replace mozilla.dev.apps.firefox. As such, we should update the forums page to replace mentions of m.d.a.f with references to firefox-dev (more info at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/firefox-dev).

However, the page as it is doesn't really acknowledge the existence of mailing-list only forums. firefox-dev is not a newsgroup/google group/mailing list combination - it only supports posting via the mailing list, with read-only web and nntp archives. So perhaps we'll need to make further edits to clarify the new state of things?
It's right there, and has been for about a week :-) Directly under mozilla.dev.apps.firefox (given that I seem to remember you said the two are running in parallel for a while).

Gerv
Ha, didn't notice that! I'd like to gradually deprecate m.d.a.f, so removing it completely from that page (i.e. not directing new people to it) seems like a good first step.
Assignee: nobody → mburns
I haven't looked at it recently, but I believe this script reads from the Mozilla.* newsgroups on news.mozilla.org (which, is indirectly controlled by us, via Giganews).

I have marked this list as Not Advertised, which takes it off the lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/ page. I don't believe that will remove it from the script that generates m.o/about/forums/ , however.


As part of the winding down process, we could turn off NNTP replication for this list, which will make it disappear from newsgroup subscribers, Google Groups and the m.o/about/forums/ , but the mailing list itself would function in the interim. But maybe that will create more headaches than it will help?
I'm confused why this is assigned to IT. Seems like a gerv thing to me.
(In reply to Michael Burns [:mburns] from comment #3)
> I haven't looked at it recently, but I believe this script reads from the
> Mozilla.* newsgroups on news.mozilla.org (which, is indirectly controlled by
> us, via Giganews).
> 
> I have marked this list as Not Advertised, which takes it off the
> lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/ page. I don't believe that will remove it from
> the script that generates m.o/about/forums/ , however.

Ah, didn't know this was automated.

> As part of the winding down process, we could turn off NNTP replication for
> this list, which will make it disappear from newsgroup subscribers, Google
> Groups and the m.o/about/forums/ , but the mailing list itself would
> function in the interim. But maybe that will create more headaches than it
> will help?

I don't think we want to do this now. If it's too complicated to hide it from the page, we can just leave it until we shut down mdaf entirely I guess.
(In reply to Michael Burns [:mburns] from comment #3)
> I haven't looked at it recently, but I believe this script reads from the
> Mozilla.* newsgroups on news.mozilla.org (which, is indirectly controlled by
> us, via Giganews).

Reed points out that this page seems to just be generated from http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.org/trunk/about/forums/raw-ng-list.txt?view=co and updated manually.

Can't we just remove mdaf from that (and re-run the commit script in that directory)?
Yes, we can, and that's exactly how I planned to fix this bug. :-) However, I've just had a new baby; give me a little time :-)

Gerv
Assignee: mburns → gerv

Comment 8

6 years ago
I'm pretty sad and slightly disturbed that mdaf is being shut down entirely. Not even the pretty closed up and mostly development-dead Thunderbird did that.
(In reply to Robert Kaiser (:kairo@mozilla.com) from comment #8)
> I'm pretty sad and slightly disturbed that mdaf is being shut down entirely.
> Not even the pretty closed up and mostly development-dead Thunderbird did
> that.

It's not being shut down yet, but it is being deprecated. If you have specific concerns, I'd be happy to discuss them directly. Send me email?
gerv@mink:/usr/src/mozilla.org/about/forums$ ./commit 
Sending        index.html
Sending        raw-ng-list.txt
Transmitting file data ..
Committed revision 114131.

Gerv
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 6 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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