There should be a "New Window" in the File menu on TB.

RESOLVED WONTFIX

Status

Thunderbird
OS Integration
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minor
RESOLVED WONTFIX
5 years ago
5 years ago

People

(Reporter: jsbruner, Assigned: jsbruner)

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({ux-consistency})

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(Not tracked)

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(2 attachments)

Right now TB does not have a |File|New      >|
                             |    |New Window|  <-- Does not exist
                             *---------------*

This is inconsistent with OS X, as there is almost always a way to accomplish this task. This is even more significant since we have the implementation for new windows available, it is just difficult to access.

This bug should:

A. Add the menu in the OS X Menu bar (Perhaps we should add it to the TB menu button as well, but we'll see)

B. And obviously, open up a new window as if it were a new instance of TB.
Created attachment 741314 [details]
New Window Mockup 1 - Most OS Consistent

Concept 1. Add the New Window menu straight beneath the "New   >" menu.

Blake, there will be another attachment that I will add ui-review? for, you can choose which works better and that is the approach I will take.
Attachment #741314 - Flags: ui-review?(bwinton)
Created attachment 741318 [details]
New Window Mockup 1 - Most TB Consistent

This one places the menu inside the "New   >" menu, to make it more consistent with TB.

I personally prefer the first one, as it is the most consistent, however placing it in the already existing "New   >" menu works fine as well.

Whatever UX decides is fine.
Attachment #741318 - Flags: ui-review?(bwinton)

Comment 3

5 years ago
Actually I think we've been actively downplaying using multiple windows. I don't see much reason anyone should be using more than one.
(In reply to Magnus Melin from comment #3)
> Actually I think we've been actively downplaying using multiple windows. I
> don't see much reason anyone should be using more than one.

If that is the case that we have been purposely downplaying multiple windows, I must request a change. I would love to have multiple windows.

Some windows for bug mail, others for personal mail. It makes sense to allow this.

And I know there a plenty of our users who are WAY more organized then I am.

Comment 5

5 years ago
Well it's already "allowed", using "Open" in the server context menu.

Comment 6

5 years ago
Josiah, I think you can use tabs for the purpose you mention. But anyway, if you implement this, just call the existing window-opening function that Magnus mentions.
Also, Firefox does have a New window command even in the new menu.
(In reply to :aceman from comment #6)
> Josiah, I think you can use tabs for the purpose you mention.

Perhaps I am more organized then I give myself credit for, but I have usually over 10 tabs in a TB window just for Bugmail. The point of this would be to allow multiple windows, so that we can have more tab groups.


> But anyway, if you implement this, just call the existing window-opening function > that Magnus mentions.

Yep, that was my plan. When I said it wasn't "allowed", I meant from the user's perspective, not from the code perspective.

> Also, Firefox does have a New window command even in the new menu.

True. But the reason I am asking for ui-review is because Fx does not have the "New" Sub menu like TB does.
JosiahOne: It's true, we _are_ trying to downplay windows in favour of tabs, so I think that a common problem with both of your suggestions is that they put New Window much higher in the menu than I feel they should be.  And when you couple that with the lack of any other bugs requesting this, or add-ons implementing this, I'm starting to feel that this isn't a common way to use Thunderbird, and would be better served by an add-on…

Thanks,
Blake.
Attachment #741314 - Flags: ui-review?(bwinton) → ui-review-
Attachment #741318 - Flags: ui-review?(bwinton) → ui-review-
So, I'm going to mark this as WONTFIX, but if you do publish an add-on, and it gets significant usage (or if we ever get a heat-map of Thunderbird that shows that a reasonable number of our users use more than one 3-pane window), then feel free to re-open this bug, and we can discuss it more then.

Thanks,
Blake.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 5 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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