Right now TB does not have a |File|New >| | |New Window| <-- Does not exist *---------------* This is inconsistent with OS X, as there is almost always a way to accomplish this task. This is even more significant since we have the implementation for new windows available, it is just difficult to access. This bug should: A. Add the menu in the OS X Menu bar (Perhaps we should add it to the TB menu button as well, but we'll see) B. And obviously, open up a new window as if it were a new instance of TB.
Created attachment 741314 [details] New Window Mockup 1 - Most OS Consistent Concept 1. Add the New Window menu straight beneath the "New >" menu. Blake, there will be another attachment that I will add ui-review? for, you can choose which works better and that is the approach I will take.
Attachment #741314 - Flags: ui-review?(bwinton)
Created attachment 741318 [details] New Window Mockup 1 - Most TB Consistent This one places the menu inside the "New >" menu, to make it more consistent with TB. I personally prefer the first one, as it is the most consistent, however placing it in the already existing "New >" menu works fine as well. Whatever UX decides is fine.
Attachment #741318 - Flags: ui-review?(bwinton)
Actually I think we've been actively downplaying using multiple windows. I don't see much reason anyone should be using more than one.
(In reply to Magnus Melin from comment #3) > Actually I think we've been actively downplaying using multiple windows. I > don't see much reason anyone should be using more than one. If that is the case that we have been purposely downplaying multiple windows, I must request a change. I would love to have multiple windows. Some windows for bug mail, others for personal mail. It makes sense to allow this. And I know there a plenty of our users who are WAY more organized then I am.
Well it's already "allowed", using "Open" in the server context menu.
Josiah, I think you can use tabs for the purpose you mention. But anyway, if you implement this, just call the existing window-opening function that Magnus mentions. Also, Firefox does have a New window command even in the new menu.
(In reply to :aceman from comment #6) > Josiah, I think you can use tabs for the purpose you mention. Perhaps I am more organized then I give myself credit for, but I have usually over 10 tabs in a TB window just for Bugmail. The point of this would be to allow multiple windows, so that we can have more tab groups. > But anyway, if you implement this, just call the existing window-opening function > that Magnus mentions. Yep, that was my plan. When I said it wasn't "allowed", I meant from the user's perspective, not from the code perspective. > Also, Firefox does have a New window command even in the new menu. True. But the reason I am asking for ui-review is because Fx does not have the "New" Sub menu like TB does.
JosiahOne: It's true, we _are_ trying to downplay windows in favour of tabs, so I think that a common problem with both of your suggestions is that they put New Window much higher in the menu than I feel they should be. And when you couple that with the lack of any other bugs requesting this, or add-ons implementing this, I'm starting to feel that this isn't a common way to use Thunderbird, and would be better served by an add-on… Thanks, Blake.
Attachment #741314 - Flags: ui-review?(bwinton) → ui-review-
Attachment #741318 - Flags: ui-review?(bwinton) → ui-review-
So, I'm going to mark this as WONTFIX, but if you do publish an add-on, and it gets significant usage (or if we ever get a heat-map of Thunderbird that shows that a reasonable number of our users use more than one 3-pane window), then feel free to re-open this bug, and we can discuss it more then. Thanks, Blake.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 5 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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