89002 - ntvmsnbc.com - Linked Buttons in page doesnt work

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: Other, defect, P1)

Description

[Ahmet A. Akin]

Turkey's one of most visited news page http://www.ntvmsnbc.com is not working
correctly in Mozilla. For reproducing the error,
1- go to the http://www.ntvmsnbc.com
2- There on the left side you will see a set of links "guncel, ekonomi etc." in
boxes. 
3- Browser has to respond click on these boxes. Bu mozilla doesnt even show the
link mouse icon. click doesnt work either. 

i have to say this page is getting maybe hundreds of thousands hits in a day.
And alas, this page has alliance with MS. i hope it is not a "non-standart"
page. if so, Mozilla may loose some of it's chance in Turkey.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010701

Comment 1

[Ahmet A. Akin]

i have found an example code releated with this buttons in HTML code.

<area SHAPE=RECT COORDS=0,100,91,119 target=_top href=/news/Tech_Front.asp>

Comment 2

[Tuukka Tolvanen (sp3000)]

The front page works in mozilla exactly the same as in ie. The similar image-map
links on the pages "NTV" ( http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/37103.asp ) and "NTV
Radyo" ( http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/62269.asp ), however, don't work because
of a simple error on the page:
<map NAME=nmMap><map NAME=nmMap>    ...i.e. the map start tag twice.

Comment 3

[Ahmet A. Akin]

Hmm.. But the point is, i run mozilla, and enter to the page, it definitely
doesnt  work with the links "Guncel, dunya, ekonomi...." on the left. And there
is a further problem, i will menton later about this site.

Comment 4

[Tuukka Tolvanen (sp3000)]

Do you mean to say that the fancy menu-thing shown in the picture on
http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/tools/nm/nm1.asp?t=Ekonomi&p=/news/COM_Front.asp&b=nc
doesn't show up?
The menu doesn't appear in IE either, nor do the links do anything more useful
than to redirect you to a page that'll ask to install something called "MSNBC
News Menu" (in ie or ns4), or choose a plainer version of the site. Curiously
enough, the identically-arranged site http://www.msnbc.com/ has the
menu-interface implemented so the it works in IE and mozilla without any
software installation necessary, and only prompts for the installation for ns4.
So apparently the Turkish MSNBC are lagging behind a bit...

Comment 5

[Ahmet A. Akin]

ok i got your point, i 've visited www.msnbc.com and thay have that "news menu"
thingy always on and it works with mozilla very well. i guess they didnt apply
that directly in Turkiye because connection speed here is usually slow. The bad
thing is alhough i tried to install that "news menu" thing, i couldnt manage
with Mozilla, yet.

 But the thing still i havent seen with the Mozilla, it  even doesnt "redirect"
the page if i click on that fancy menu thingy. There is still a problem i assume. 

which OS and Moz version are you using?

Comment 6

[Markus Gerstel]

wfm 2001070204 w2k, changing severity since this isn't critical

Comment 7

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

We still have a problem here.  On the pages with two <map> tags we don't do the
right thing, apparently...  Over to parser, for a start.

Steps to reproduce:

1) Go to http://www.ntvmsnbc.com
2) Click on "Dunya" on the left
3) Try to click it again on the page that loads

Seeing this with linux build 2001-06-26-06

Comment 8

[Ahmet A. Akin]

There is stg wrong, i tried to enter www.ntvmsnbc.com at home with Mozilla 0.9.2
official release and -main page- links works. strange it does not work in 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010701. 

But the case  Boris Zbarsky wrote is correct and neither 0.9.2 nor
Gecko/20010701  work in  http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/DUNYA_Front.asp?ta=y

Comment 9

[harishd]

Attachment: Testcase

Comment 10

[harishd]

moving to 0.9.4...and raising priority to P1.

Comment 11

[harishd]

content model for my testcase:

docshell=0135FE80
html@02F3B400 refcount=8<
  head@02F3B310 refcount=2<
  >
  Text@02F5AA30 refcount=3<\n >
  body@02F5FBC0 refcount=7<
    Text@02F58180 refcount=3<\n  >
    b@02F58120 refcount=3<
      Text@02F5B3B0 refcount=3<Should be able to click on the ant!.>
    >
    br@02F5BC10 refcount=3<>
    Text@02F5BB50 refcount=3<\n  >
    img@02F5FF60 src=http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ant.jpg alt=Click Here width=40
 height=40 usemap=#nmMap border=10 refcount=6<>
    Text@02F494F0 refcount=3<\n   >
    map@02F714C0 name=nmMap refcount=5<
    >
    map@02F72F60 name=nmMap refcount=4<
      area@02F71B30 shape=RECT coords=10,0,30,30 target=_top href=http://bugzill
a.mozilla.org refcount=2<>
    >
    Text@02F72FC0 refcount=3<\n >
  >
>

Comment 12

[joki (gone)]

Attachment: test case

Comment 13

[harishd]

MAPs need to have unique ids to work correctly. Over to evangelism.

Comment 14

[Ahmet A. Akin]

But in this case there is a repetition and they use same ID after all. Cant be
fixed anyway?  This is a
MS based page and they will never ever change the code or layout just because of
this or any other mistake (see Bug 93333 also) . i sent them 3 different mails
about this issues and but no reply has come. but i see this page is very
important for
the success of Mozilla in Turkey. i apologize for insisting. 

Comment 15

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

All Evangelism Bugs are now in the Product Tech Evangelism. See bug 86997 for
details.

Comment 16

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

-> Euro

Comment 17

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

bumping target milestone for followups to 0.9.5.

Comment 18

[z-aillon.c-obsolete2]

->East Europe.

Comment 19

[Nikolai Prokoschenko]

Changing milestone to 0.9.6

Comment 20

[Nikolai Prokoschenko]

I'm setting the milestone to Future for the following reasons: Ahmet has sent
them e-mails (didn't you?) which have yielded nothing. This and bug  93333 (I
think of merging them) are both solvable if Microsoft Turkey updates their
software for MSNBC to the version installed on the main USA site. Until then,
there is not much we can do. If you have any suggestions, please post them here.

Comment 21

[Mehmet D. AKIN]

I guess they changed their version and now links are working,

Worksforme in 
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.7+) Gecko/20020123

Comment 22

[Mehmet D. AKIN]

After a second check, I take back my words, it still does not work properly 
doesnotworkforme..
:)

Comment 23

[Nikolai Prokoschenko]

Mass-accepting bugs - sorry for the spam. I'm back :)

Comment 24

[Nikolai Prokoschenko]

Quitting Evangelism due to lack of time...

Comment 25

[Owen Marshall (Not reading bugmail)]

Mass triage of Tech Evangelism bugs pending deletion of obsolete European
components. To find this spam, search for "WarmApplePieAndMilk"

Specific info for this bug: to other. english mentions Turkey a bunch, suspect
turkish

Comment 26

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

The menu links work for me in Mozilla 1.5b but still don't have the flyout menus
like the US site but neither does IE. marking fixed.