907138 - Fetching unsubscribed IMAP folders that are still visible

Status: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

(Thunderbird :: Folder and Message Lists, defect)

Description

[ildar.mulyukov]

Having unchecked the "Show only subscribed folders" I see all folders at server. But I see TB incorrectly handles the folders that are unsubscribed but still visible.

1. TB marks the folder for Sync for Offline use. Again and again, every restart.
2. fetches messages from these folders even though they are unchecked in folder subscription list.

Comment 1

[WADA:World Anti-bad-Duping Agency]

(In reply to ildar from comment #0)
> Having unchecked the "Show only subscribed folders" I see all folders at server. 
> But I see TB incorrectly handles the folders that are unsubscribed but still visible.

What is your base of "incorrectly"?
Spec of "Show only subscribed folders" setting is:
- "Show only subscribed folders" is Checked
  === mode for "Show and use subscribed folders only"
  => Tb shows subscribed folders only ar Folder Pane.
  => Tb shows all folders at subscription list.
- "Show only subscribed folders" is Unchecked
  === mode for "Show and use all folders regardless of
      subscribed/unsubscribed status of folder"
  => Tb shows all folders ar Folder Pane.
  => Tb shows all folders at subscription list.
How can this spec be "incorrect"?

> 1. TB marks the folder for Sync for Offline use. Again and again, every restart.
> 2. fetches messages from these folders even though they are unchecked in folder subscription list.

Subscribe/unsubscribe and Offline-use=On/Offline-use=Off(with auto-sync=enabled) is independent feature, and Offline-use=On/Offline-use=Off is "per folder property" which is absolutely different from "subscribed/unsubscribed status defined in protocol named IMAP".

Did you correctly set Offline-Use=Off for the IMAP folder?
  Folder Properties/Synchronization.
  This property of all IMAP folders of all IMAP accounts
  which is shown at folder pane,
  can be accessed via :
    Account Settings, Synchronization & Storage, "Advanced" button.
    (similar to subscription list, but absolutely different thing)

Comment 2

[ildar.mulyukov]

All(In reply to WADA from comment #1)
> - "Show only subscribed folders" is Unchecked
>   === mode for "Show and use all folders regardless of
>       subscribed/unsubscribed status of folder"
[...]
> How can this spec be "incorrect"?

Show != "Show and use" !!
Do you mean that having "Show only subscribed folders" == Unchecked makes folder subscription ineffective? If so, that should be shown in folder subscription dialog!

I intended to show all folders to be able to drop messages in them while being careless of what's in that folders (i.e. unsubscribed). Is it possible with TB?

> > 1. TB marks the folder for Sync for Offline use. Again and again, every restart.
> > 2. fetches messages from these folders even though they are unchecked in folder subscription list.
> 
> Subscribe/unsubscribe and Offline-use=On/Offline-use=Off(with
> auto-sync=enabled) is independent feature, and
> Offline-use=On/Offline-use=Off is "per folder property" which is absolutely
> different from "subscribed/unsubscribed status defined in protocol named
> IMAP".
> 
> Did you correctly set Offline-Use=Off for the IMAP folder?
>   Folder Properties/Synchronization.
>   This property of all IMAP folders of all IMAP accounts
>   which is shown at folder pane,
>   can be accessed via :
>     Account Settings, Synchronization & Storage, "Advanced" button.
>     (similar to subscription list, but absolutely different thing)

Right. The checkboxes for the folder(s) in the "Advanced" button dialog behaves the same: it becomes checked every restart.

I may guess that this is the conflict between the two properties of the folder which are: "show the folder" and "the folder in unsubscribed, so no need to store any info about it".

My case _may_ be complicated by the ugly Lotus Domino IMAP server and maildir storage used for the account. Sorry that this info comes to you late though might be relevant.

Comment 3

[WADA:World Anti-bad-Duping Agency]

(In reply to ildar from comment #2)
> maildir storage used for the account.

Maildir storage at IMAP server?
Or Maildir store in Tb?
(mail.server.serverN.storeContractID="@mozilla.org/msgstore/maildirstore;1" instead of "@mozilla.org/msgstore/berkeleystore;1")

> Do you mean that having "Show only subscribed folders" == Unchecked > makes folder subscription ineffective?

No. subscribe/unsubscribe is normally executed.
i.e. subsctibe/unsubscribed command is properly sent to IMAP server from Tb by toggling Checked/Unchecked status of an Mbox at subscription list.
"Show" in context of "Show subscribed folders only" is "Show at folder pane for Mbox access" and "Show at folder selection list".
It's not "show in subscripton list or not show in subscription list".

> > Did you correctly set Offline-Use=Off for the IMAP folder?
> >   Folder Properties/Synchronization.
> >   This property of all IMAP folders of all IMAP accounts
> >   which is shown at folder pane,
> >   can be accessed via :
> >     Account Settings, Synchronization & Storage, "Advanced" button.
> >     (similar to subscription list, but absolutely different thing)
> Right. The checkboxes for the folder(s) in the "Advanced" button dialog
> behaves the same: it becomes checked every restart.

After you confirmed that "Offline-Use=Off is set at Folder Property of an Mbox", what did you do on the Mbox before terminatin of Tb/restart of Tb?

If "Cancel" is requested at Advanced button or Folder property, setting change is not saved.
If "[?] Keep messages on this computer ..." is changed to checked, Offline-use=On is set for all Mbox of the IMAP account.
If "[?] Keep messages on this computer ..." is changed to unchecked, Offline-use=On is reset(Offline-Use=Off is set) for all Mbox of the IMAP account.
If unsubscribe/re-subscribe is done with "Show subscribed folder only" is Checked, if "[X] Keep messages on this computer ..." is Checked status, re-subscribed Mbox is set as Offline-Use=On.
("[X] Keep messages on this computer ..." is Checked or Unchecked == mail.server.serverX.offline_download = true or false. This is default of Offline-use=On/Off of newly created folder or new folder for Tb, and is applied to renamed folder, re-subscribed folder too.)

Was Folder property/Synchronization actually set as Offline-Use=Off just before termination ob Tb/restart of Tb?

Comment 4

[ildar.mulyukov]

(In reply to WADA from comment #3)
> (In reply to ildar from comment #2)
> > maildir storage used for the account.
> 
> Maildir storage at IMAP server?
> Or Maildir store in Tb?
> (mail.server.serverN.storeContractID="@mozilla.org/msgstore/maildirstore;1"
> instead of "@mozilla.org/msgstore/berkeleystore;1")

storeContractID="@mozilla.org/msgstore/maildirstore;1"

> > Do you mean that having "Show only subscribed folders" == Unchecked makes folder subscription ineffective?
> 
> No. subscribe/unsubscribe is normally executed.

OK

> After you confirmed that "Offline-Use=Off is set at Folder Property of an
> Mbox", what did you do on the Mbox before terminatin of Tb/restart of Tb?
[...]
> Was Folder property/Synchronization actually set as Offline-Use=Off just
> before termination ob Tb/restart of Tb?

Exactly.
Can it be Lotus who may ignore my subscription list? I expect anything wrong from that beast.

Comment 5

[WADA:World Anti-bad-Duping Agency]

(In reply to ildar from comment #0)
> 1. TB marks the folder for Sync for Offline use. Again and again, every restart.
> 2. fetches messages from these folders even though they are unchecked in folder subscription list.

Next your bug summary is obviously INVALID, because you unchcked "Show subscribed folers only".
> Bug summary : Fetching unsubscribed IMAP folders that are still visible.
Even when a folder is unsubscribed, Tb's spec of "Show subscribed folers only == Unchecked" is "Show folder at folder pane regardless of subscribed/unsubscribed status held at server". So, mail in unsubscribed folder is acccesible if "Show subscribed folers only" is unchecked.

What phenomenon do you call by your "2. fetches messages from these folders even though they are unchecked in folder subscription list."?

Comment 6

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

(In reply to WADA:World Anti-bad-Duping Agency from comment #5)
> ...
> What phenomenon do you call by your "2. fetches messages from these folders
> even though they are unchecked in folder subscription list."?

Comment 7

[ildar.mulyukov]

Dear,
I am sorry I don't have access to that IMAP server anymore. Closing.

Comment 8

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

Thanks for the update