917035 - Add outlook IMAP servers to hotmail.com

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Webtools :: ISPDB Database Entries, defect)

Description

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Matt said in bug 915921 and bug 916121 comment 4 that the new outlook.com IMAP servers also work for @hotmail.com accounts.

We need to know:
1) Which server hostnames to use
2) Whether that really work, and whether that's for all hotmail.* and live.* country domains.

If we could configure IMAP for all hotmail users, that would be a great boon. Currently, they all have POP3 only, and that's a pain when used concurrently with webmail, which many hotmail users do.

Comment 1

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Matt, 1) is for you: Which IMAP and SMTP hostnames did you use when you tested your @hotmail.com account?

Comment 2

[Matt]

imap-mail.outlook.com:993	SSL/TLS	Normal password	smtp-mail.outlook.com:587	STARTTLS	Normal password	true

are the setting I am still using.

Comment 3

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

for which email address (@whichdomain) ?

Comment 4

[Matt]

(In reply to Ben Bucksch (:BenB) from comment #3)
> for which email address (@whichdomain) ?

@hotmail.com

I wrote quite a long reply the first time but it just did not make it.  Not sure what happened.

Microsoft announces completion of the migration to Live.com of 400 million hotmail accounts. http://blogs.office.com/b/microsoft-outlook/archive/2013/05/02/outlook-com-400-million-active-accounts-hotmail-upgrade-complete-and-more-features-on-the-way.aspx

Comment 5

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Thanks for the info, Matt!

Comment 6

[Matt]

I have tried to get confirmation on this from their support.  All I get is the usual Microsoft Support Answers, 100% accurate and 100% useless.

The best after repeated tries is

 Ron Sommer Consumer Apps MVP replied on

MVP Community Moderator MCC: Content Creator

Reply

Imap access became available on United States servers first.

It has been long enough that all servers should be updated.

Comment 7

[Matt]

Ok, I have confirmation (I think so anyway) 

"Yes, anyone with one of the old hotmail, msn, live, or outlook.com email addresses can get IMAP."
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail-oapps/imap-support/d0de9a82-dfcd-4d1b-bc2b-ee20ed58bd79?msgId=206e6e4b-1ada-444d-8da8-2fd194352ee2

Comment 8

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Note that that Ron guy isn't an official. It's just somebody who posts a lot (and fast). He's not a MS employee. (And while I feel your frustration, be more kind and polite, please.)

I'll take this as a strong indication that the config applies to all domains. But it isn't proof. I'm 80% convinced.

Comment 9

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Attachment: Move outlook.com config over to hotmail.com

Given that hotmail.com and co can now use the same config as outlook.com, move the outlook.com server config to hotmail.com, and add domain outlook.com there. I will delete outlook.com config.

Hotmail is best known and should stay being the main config.

Comment 10

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Note: I cannot test, because MS decided to delete my hotmail.de accounts due to inactivity and I don't feel like re-registering every few months.

Comment 11

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 8363326 [details] [diff] [review]
Move outlook.com config over to hotmail.com

We should also remove the previous outlook.com file, right?
Other than that, this looks good to me!

Comment 12

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

> We should also remove the previous outlook.com file, right?

Right.

Comment 9:
>> I will delete outlook.com config.

Comment 13

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Thanks for the reviews!

Commited as SVN Revision 124122
I have also deleted outlook.com.
FIXED

Thanks, Matt, for the info and for reminding me!