924030 - Firefox for android hides the top menu when scorlling and it doesn't show itself, nor are there any gestures to make it return on android 4+(phones not tablets as I've not checked them yet)

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Firefox for Android Graveyard :: General, defect)

Description

[133794m3r]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130917 Firefox/17.0 Iceweasel/17.0.9 (Nightly/Aurora)
Build ID: 20130917135315

Steps to reproduce:

Open up a page on F4A, scroll down on said page.

Watch as the top menu bar disspears. Unlike the built-in-browser there's no way to get the UI to show itself without a menu button, or scrolling back up.

Unlike earlier f4a versions(<15) the menu doesn't reappear via any gestures.


Actual results:

UI bar disspears.


Expected results:

It should show itself, or there should be a way to make it appear. According to the FAQ you have to _install_ an addon to make it completely disspear when looking through a page. This issue has persisted since at least version 16 or 17. Tehre's no setting to disable it, as there's no menu button on the nexus device. It's all software buttons, and it's on android 4.2, and this issue only showed up recently. You used to be able to swipe to the left or the right to show the menu again. Then mozilla decided to change the UI because "that was too hard" which is idiotic. Now there's no way to get the menu back.

On built-in-browser you can tap it(once) to make the "awesomebar" and other UI elements show themselves again. This is not the case on firefox. Chrome does similar to built in(when I last used it ~2yrs ago).

If you need me to, I can attach a logcat log for this issue if that's needed. But I havent' because I don't think it should be required. Also this is with _zero_ addons/extensions installed.

Comment 1

[Aaron Train [:aaronmt]]

You can reveal the toolbar by either scrolling just a little bit on a web page, or by hitting your devices menu button and those are the only two methods of reveal that we have specifically designed for.

Comment 2

[133794m3r]

(In reply to Aaron Train [:aaronmt] from comment #1)
> You can reveal the toolbar by either scrolling just a little bit on a web
> page, or by hitting your devices menu button and those are the only two
> methods of reveal that we have specifically designed for.

So let me get this straight on devices that do not have physical buttons mozilla's "idea" is well **** them. We can't be bothered to _put_ a menu button on the side of the screen for 4.0+ devices w/o hardware buttons? What kind of usability is that? How the hell is _anyone_ ever going to learn how to do that? That makes _zero_ sense. No one is _ever_ going to learn that on their onw. Touch devices don't have a menu button and the android api gives you an option to customize the menu buttons but yet mozilla doesn't add one. That seems retarded and a half thing to do.

Comment 3

[133794m3r]

I love how I can't delete my comment. Oh well, I accidently hit it but anyway. That's dumb, you have to scroll up to reveal the menu bar. There's no other way around it, and the offiical documentation says otherwise. They state that you have to install an addon to make the UI completely go away.

Comment 4

[133794m3r]

As I said above, if a device doesn't have a hardware button which is _where_ we're moving towards. I see no reason to completely make it unusable. My god, what is up with you people. You're behaving as stupid as the GNOME folks. "oh hey, let's make it so that a user cannot use it if they're using their device. Let's also make it impossible to learn how to do it except by trial and error and also make it a horrible experience. That'll get people to use our browser!"

Comment 5

[133794m3r]

Also one last thing I want to say, the images you show on the app store, is a lie. Those are not latest firefox those are for the old firefox _back_ when it actually worked. That entire menu is different and anyone trying to use it on a nexus device, or _any_ device that lacks hardware buttons is now screwed. Other programs make their own menu for the bottom, but not firefox. It also disspaears the menu it's just gone. Unlike what's shown. So you guys are clearly falsely advertising the look and feel of it. Because it's _nothing_ like it used to be. I have since told people to not even bother with it because it's such a god awful experience.

Comment 6

[Ian Barlow (:ibarlow)]

First, you are behaving inappropriately and I would encourage you to read  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=etiquette.html as a refresher for how to have conversations in Bugzilla. 

Second, I am resolving this as invalid because 

1. You can reveal the title bar by scrolling. We are fine tuning the sensitivity of it, but have no plans to remove this behaviour.

2. You can set a pref in about:config to permanantly show the title bar if that's the interaction you prefer: "browser.chrome.dynamictoolbar = false"