92705 - www.lautstark.tv - non-standard JavaScript and makes Navigation impossible

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: German, defect)

Description

[Robert Kaiser]

This is another .eu evang issue - The Austrian (German Language) site
lautstark.tv only checks for document.all and document.layers and needs those
functions for their navigation interfaces, making use of their pages with a
standards-compliant browser like my 2001-07-28 linux trunk build impossible.

see this part of their main page and you guess what's up here:

<script LANGUAGE="JavaScript" TYPE="text/javascript">
<!--
     NS4 = (document.layers);
     IE4 = (document.all);
    ver4 = (NS4 || IE4);
	 IE5 = (IE4 && navigator.appVersion.indexOf("5.")!=-1);
   isMac = (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Mac") != -1);
  isMenu = (NS4 || (IE4 && !isMac) || (IE5 && isMac));
function popUp(){return};
function popDown(){return};
if (!ver4) event=null;
//-->
</SCRIPT>

Assisgning to [e-mail] because its a site in .eu region.

Comment 1

[Katsuhiko Momoi]

Component change to West Europe. (Austrian German site)

Comment 2

[Alexandra Cheroret]

Do not know exactly what the issue is but home page seem sto be extremely heavy...
2001092905094.

Comment 3

[Robert Kaiser]

Alexandra: it is, right.

The main problem we have with this site is that they do use links like this:
<a HREF="javascript:void(0)" class="navigationlinks"
onMouseOver="popUp('elMenu7',event)" onMouseOut="popDown('elMenu7')"
onClick="return false">Szene-Reporter</a>

In NS4.x or IE, you get a popup-menu on mouse-over, which is used for detailed
navigation in those sections of the site (e.g. "Szene-Reporter",
"Event-Vorschau", "Lautstark").

As those popups are only created when isMenu is true in the script above, we
won't get anything, not even an error. So they have two possibilities: either
they should use standards (that would be best) and/or they should at least
display something useable if they get (isMenu == false) in their check.

Comment 4

[z-aillon.c-obsolete2]

That is tell-tale hierMenus code.  They need to upgrade to the latest DOM
compliant version of 4.1.x.  Adding to HierMenu tracker.  See bug 85104 for details.

Comment 5

[Doron Rosenberg (IBM)]

contacted [e-mail]

Comment 6

[Doron Rosenberg (IBM)]

still not fixed

Comment 7

[Frederic Bezies]

This site seems not to care mozilla users. Still old hiermenus today. :-/

Comment 8

[Robert Kaiser]

For everyone that knows German: I wrote that issue in a forum of the
organization "Junge ÖVP Oberösterreich" that is making this site as well.

Norbert Eder, Secretary of the organisaztion answered:
"Dass lautstark.tv nur vom exploder richtig gezeigt wird, wissen wir
leider auch. Leider kümmern da unseren bisherigen partner
oberoesterreich.com die schwach 10 prozent linux und anderen user nicht.
auch hier bemühen wir uns um eine lösung, dies ist aber eine
längerfristige sache!"

They sadi their partner, who designed the pages, didn't care about non-IE people
very much, but they want to resolve the issue, though it's only a long-term
thingy...

Comment 9

[Robert Kaiser]

OK, it looks as if lautstark.tv did redesign their site, as I can't find the
non-working links any more...

Resolving.

Comment 10

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New Component

Comment 11

[Michael Stadlbauer]

-v