Progress meter should show minor progress during waits (IE-like)



17 years ago
13 years ago


(Reporter: raymond, Assigned: mpt)


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17 years ago
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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628
BuildID:    2001062815

The progress meter should show minor progress even if no new data is coming in.
This should be visualized by extending the progress meter with 1 pixel every
second. For comparison, please check out MSIE (5.5) which has this feature built-in.

- Progress is always made, either towards a fully loaded page, or towards the
- It simply results in a better end-user experience: this feature  reassures the
user that the browser is not hanging. I know, you can see it's not hanging by
looking at the animated mozilla icon, but most users are really watching the
progress meter as progress is what they are waiting for.
- Eye candy / slickness

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
Visit any page that takes a long time to load and that, while loading, has
periods during which no data is received.

Actual Results:  The progress meter halts, jumps forwards, halts, jumps forward,
and so on.

Expected Results:  The progress meter makes slight progress, jumps forwards,
makes slight progress, jumps forward, and so on. Anyway, try the same page with
MSIE and you'll know what I mean...

Comment 1

17 years ago
I don't like IE's method.  If this is implemented, I suggest the no-op progress 
be made a different color.
over to UI design... 
Assignee: blake → mpt
Component: XP Apps: GUI Features → User Interface Design
Ever confirmed: true
QA Contact: sairuh → zach
I suggest a wontfix.
That is one of the things in IE that I don't like....

Comment 4

17 years ago
I too don't care for this approach.  I think Mozilla's throbber is enough to
indicate the browser has not crashed and Mozilla is working on the user's request.

Comment 5

17 years ago
The progress meter is supposed to reflect the total progress loading the page --
Mozilla often knows what proportion of the page has downloaded, from the size of
the files and how much of them it has downloaded so far.

The initial stage of loading a page, however, is (mostly) doing DNS resolution
on the hostname, and waiting for a response from the server after the request
(HTTP, FTP, whatever) is sent. Mozilla has absolutely no idea how long either of
these will take; it could be 0.1 seconds, or it could be 30 seconds. During this
time we correctly show an indeterminate (spinning) progress indicator, meaning
that we don't know what proportion of the total time we have taken so far.

MSIE, on the other hand, eschews the indeterminate progress indicator in favor
of a determinate progress indicator which crawls along during indeterminate
progress. This is, basically, lying to the user. It means, for example, that it
is possible for a large proportion (50 %, I think) of the progress indicator to
be filled up when requesting a Web page from a server which has been turned off
and is never going to respond.

We have quite a few bugs on improving Mozilla's networking status feedback, and
you're welcome to file a bug on showing (in the status text) the amount of time
for which a page load has been stalled. But anything which is this dishonest is
only going to get a WONTFIX from me.
Last Resolved: 17 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX

Comment 6

17 years ago


16 years ago
Component: User Interface Design → Browser-General
Product: Browser → Seamonkey
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