Closed
Bug 932703
Opened 11 years ago
Closed 11 years ago
Launch Stack Overflow forums
Categories
(developer.mozilla.org Graveyard :: General, defect)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
FIXED
People
(Reporter: robert, Unassigned)
References
Details
Includes: - Creating 5 links to go from Stack Overflow to Mozilla entities - Branding (bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929267)
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Comment 1•11 years ago
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We should evaluate using the Google Analytics URL builder, for segmenting visitors: 1. Create URLs here: https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1033867?hl=en-GB 2. (optional) shorten with http://mzl.la shorten-er 3. Use custom URLs for SO links
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Comment 2•11 years ago
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Suggested links for the five we will have in our tag collection page at http://stackoverflow.com/r/mozilla: - Mozilla Hacks (http://hacks.mozilla.org/) - HTML5 & Friends (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/learn/html5) - Marketplace/DevHub (https://marketplace.firefox.com/developers/) - Firefox OS on MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS) - Dev Tools on MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/tools)
Comment 3•11 years ago
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I like it!
Comment 4•11 years ago
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(In reply to Robert Nyman from comment #2) > - HTML5 & Friends (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/learn/html5) This page must die (in this form, outside the wiki). Use: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML or https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5 > - Marketplace/DevHub (https://marketplace.firefox.com/developers/) This is moving to the MDN (or so have I been told). We shouldn't link to such an URL anymore. The earlier we build SEO on the new page, the better.
Comment 5•11 years ago
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I'm am passing these off to Stack Overflow today, but we will have the opportunity to change whenever we want. I will take the new html5 one. On the devhub issue, we need something we can point to now that is not behind a login. Should we just point to the marketplace and not the /developer part? --MC
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Comment 6•11 years ago
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> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5 I think that's fair. > > - Marketplace/DevHub (https://marketplace.firefox.com/developers/) > This is moving to the MDN (or so have I been told). We shouldn't link to > such an URL anymore. The earlier we build SEO on the new page, the better. I agree with that, but before we have the possible new URL in place, we need to use the old one. These links will go live in a day or two on Stack Overflow.
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Comment 7•11 years ago
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> I will take the new html5 one. On the devhub issue, we need something we can
> point to now that is not behind a login. Should we just point to the
> marketplace and not the /developer part?
I think the developer part need to be in there, for now (unless we believe it to go away soon, but then I assume we will have a redirect in place to the new home on MDN?).
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Comment 8•11 years ago
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After having spoken to the MDN people, this is the revised list for the links: - Mozilla Hacks (http://hacks.mozilla.org/) - HTML5 on MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5) *changed* (previous link seems outdated/not maintained) - App Center (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps) *changed* (moved from DevHub till its new home) - Firefox OS on MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS) *changed* (to include locale, which I was recommended) - Dev Tools on MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/tools) *changed* (to include locale, which I was recommended)
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Comment 9•11 years ago
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Using Google Analytics URLs for MDN to make it easier and better for us to track clickback from Stack Overflow: - Mozilla Hacks (http://hacks.mozilla.org/) - HTML5 on MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=StackOverflowForums) - App Center (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=StackOverflowForums) - Firefox OS on MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=StackOverflowForums) - Dev Tools on MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/tools?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=StackOverflowForums) Luke, do these look ok?
Flags: needinfo?(lcrouch)
Comment 10•11 years ago
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Thanks for adding those - I'm eager to experiment tracking further up our long funnel of traffic acquisition. Couple questions: No campaign url parameters for the hacks link? The url's are pointing to /en-US/ url's? teoli: Is that appropriate for StackOverflow link-backs? I always forget when to use locale-specific links or not.
Flags: needinfo?(lcrouch) → needinfo?(jypenator)
Comment 11•11 years ago
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Easy, always uses locale-specific links.
Updated•11 years ago
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Flags: needinfo?(jypenator)
Comment 12•11 years ago
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Guys, do give me the final-final versions as soon as you can. I already submitted last week ... I'd prefer not to give them multiple corrections, although we can change later, of course. Btw, I'm spelling out MDN in the links since I don't want to assume people know what it stands for. E.g., "HTML5 on the Mozilla Developer Network."
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Comment 13•11 years ago
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Luke, Jean-Yves: thank you! Mark, I think the above, in comment #9, should be the ones to give them now. I haven't used campaign URL parameters for Mozilla Hacks yet, so I'd go with a clean URL for now. With spelling out the network name: think we should emphasize on the acronym and have "HTML5 on MDN (Mozilla Developer Network)" to get that into peoples' minds? Also, if we launch the Developer Program in a little over a month's time, we'll need to change a link or two anyway. On that topic, is the process to e-mail them the links? And any idea what the handling time would be to update them? We might want to experiment, try different links, do some links as a short campaign etc, so it would be good if we can be agile there.
Comment 14•11 years ago
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Robert--or anyone else who knows--what would be the URL for just a link to MDN? We need that for the banner ads, and I assume we also want the GOogle Analytics stuff on that. Thanks. --MC
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Comment 15•11 years ago
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This should do the trick: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=StackOverflowForums For future reference (for all of us), and to have it available in this context: Google Analytic's URL builder is at https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1033867?hl=en-GB
Comment 16•11 years ago
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It's also a pretty straight-forward URL appendage: ?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=StackOverflowForums That should work for any URL so GA can create a source/medium dimension to the traffic. So you could just throw that onto the hacks.mozilla.org url as well.
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Comment 17•11 years ago
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I think the parameters are good, and useful for possible campaigns. My worry, though, is that people will bookmark the link/have it in their history/address bar, so every time they go to Hacks it will look like they came from Stack Overflow - which wouldn't be true, and would give a skewed number. Have you thought about this with the MDN start page/had similar experience?
Comment 18•11 years ago
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Good point. If we're concerned about that, we can use JS to remove the analytics clutter from the campaign URL's *after* they've been reported to GA. We'll have to change the URL's to use hash instead of query strings. e.g.: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=StackOverflowForums Then we add a few lines of JS to our google analytics calls: http://cfsimplicity.com/61/removing-analytics-clutter-from-campaign-urls
Comment 19•11 years ago
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https://github.com/mozilla/kuma/pull/1596 in case we decide to use the hashes instead.
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Comment 20•11 years ago
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(In reply to Luke Crouch [:groovecoder] from comment #18) > Good point. If we're concerned about that, we can use JS to remove the > analytics clutter from the campaign URL's *after* they've been reported to > GA. > > We'll have to change the URL's to use hash instead of query strings. e.g.: > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/ > #utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=StackOverflowForums > > Then we add a few lines of JS to our google analytics calls: > > http://cfsimplicity.com/61/removing-analytics-clutter-from-campaign-urls Seems like a decent solution. Would you mind adding that to the Hacks code as well, and deploy it? Then I can talk to Stack Overflow and update the URL.
Comment 21•11 years ago
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Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/kuma https://github.com/mozilla/kuma/commit/ab2361a86173f66f90ab2824560cfd1164cb10b6 bug 932703 - clean hash utm variables after track https://github.com/mozilla/kuma/commit/7dd8b877c084339f6d625a342b1cf04cf778642e Merge pull request #1596 from groovecoder/ga-campaign-cleanup-932703 bug 932703 - clean hash utm variables after track
Comment 22•11 years ago
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I just sent https://github.com/mozilla/mozhacks/pull/19 to enable the same campaign tracking on hacks.mozilla.org. I suggested Havi use #utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DevProgram I wonder it all of these new sources and mediums of traffic should fall under that single "DevProgram" campaign? So these links would be: #utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram ?
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Comment 23•11 years ago
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> I just sent https://github.com/mozilla/mozhacks/pull/19 to enable the same > campaign tracking on hacks.mozilla.org. Thanks! Please push that live when you can. > I suggested Havi use > #utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DevProgram Sounds good. > I wonder it all of these new sources and mediums of traffic should fall > under that single "DevProgram" campaign? So these links would be: > > #utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram > > ? Yeah, that does make sense. The source and medium are the unique identifiers, and DevProgram the umbrella to collect them all. I've contacted Stack Overflow with these new links: - Mozilla Hacks (http://hacks.mozilla.org/?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) - HTML5 on the Mozilla Developer Network (MDN) (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) - App Center (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) - Firefox OS on the Mozilla Developer Network (MDN) (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) - Dev Tools on the Mozilla Developer Network (MDN) (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/tools?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) I'll let you know when they are live, so we can make a quick tweak to the code cleaning the URL. Thanks!
Comment 24•11 years ago
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Please change the ? characters in those links to # characters so the js code will properly strip them after the user clicks. e.g., test https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram vs. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram
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Comment 25•11 years ago
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(In reply to Luke Crouch [:groovecoder] from comment #24) > Please change the ? characters in those links to # characters so the js code > will properly strip them after the user clicks. > > e.g., test > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/ > HTML5?utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram vs. > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/ > HTML5#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram Thanks, good catch! Will do!
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Comment 26•11 years ago
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For clarity, these are the new links: - Mozilla Hacks (http://hacks.mozilla.org/#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) - HTML5 on the Mozilla Developer Network (MDN) (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) - App Center (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) - Firefox OS on the Mozilla Developer Network (MDN) (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram) - Dev Tools on the Mozilla Developer Network (MDN) (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/tools#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram)
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Comment 27•11 years ago
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Links are now updated on Stack Overflow! Luke, the hash cleaning seems to work well on all MDN links (try the top five links at http://stackoverflow.com/r/mozilla). Not on Hacks, however: https://hacks.mozilla.org/#utm_source=StackOverflow&utm_medium=forums&utm_campaign=DevProgram Do you know when that will be pushed live?
Flags: needinfo?(lcrouch)
Comment 28•11 years ago
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David - can you merge and push https://github.com/mozilla/mozhacks/pull/19 ?
Flags: needinfo?(lcrouch) → needinfo?(dwalsh)
Comment 29•11 years ago
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My VPN has been a nightmare on my new computer -- Craig, can you push?
Flags: needinfo?(craigcook.bugz)
Comment 30•11 years ago
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Alas, I have no push powers for Hacks. I've always had to file an IT bug.
Flags: needinfo?(craigcook.bugz)
Comment 31•11 years ago
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If someone else will review & merge, I'll push it myself.
Updated•11 years ago
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Flags: needinfo?(dwalsh)
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Comment 32•11 years ago
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Mark, we should be able to close this bug now, right?
Flags: needinfo?(mcoggins)
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Updated•11 years ago
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Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 11 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Updated•4 years ago
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Product: developer.mozilla.org → developer.mozilla.org Graveyard
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