939902 - Remove outdated l10n trademark policy

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: Pages & Content, defect)

Description

[Matej Novak [:matej]]

The rules on the current page are old and out of date. The page should be removed. Thanks.

Comment 1

[John Slater]

Thanks Matej. Big +1 for this...this policy is out of date and tends to cause confusion whenever people find it.

Perhaps the best move would be to keep the URL alive, but redirect it to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/styleguide/communications/translation/ instead.

Mike, can you give us an estimate of how long it would take something like this to happen?

Comment 2

[Mike Alexis [:malexis]]

(In reply to John Slater from comment #1)

> Mike, can you give us an estimate of how long it would take something like
> this to happen?

Not long, just need to prioritize with everything else. I'll add it to our backlog.

Comment 3

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

Is this also obsolete? http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/l10n-website-policy/

* www.mozilla-europe.org has been merged into www.mozilla.org
* www.mozilla-japan.org has been merged into www.mozilla.jp where the Mozilla Japan team is translating

Comment 4

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

There are some references from other pages to the l10n policy:
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/l10n-website-policy/
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/policy/
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/

Can we just remove that page while keeping those references?
https://github.com/kyoshino/bedrock/compare/bug-939902-remove-l10n-policy

Comment 5

[Matej Novak [:matej]]

The only policy we want to remove is the one surrounding how we translate our brand names. If this page ends up redirecting to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/styleguide/communications/translation/, those other references should be fine. Thanks.

Comment 6

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

Attachment: PR on GitHub

Comment 7

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

CCing a few l10n people here.

Comment 8

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

This bug is actually a dupe of bug 442671, and it's not resolved yet because the branding changes don't reflect the current status of our implementations.

Comment 9

[John Slater]

(In reply to Axel Hecht [:Pike] from comment #8)
> This bug is actually a dupe of bug 442671, and it's not resolved yet because
> the branding changes don't reflect the current status of our implementations.

Hi Axel. Can you explain what that means?

Comment 10

[John Slater]

(In reply to John Slater from comment #9)
> (In reply to Axel Hecht [:Pike] from comment #8)
> > This bug is actually a dupe of bug 442671, and it's not resolved yet because
> > the branding changes don't reflect the current status of our implementations.
> 
> Hi Axel. Can you explain what that means?

friendly ping

Comment 11

[[github robot]]

Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/bf1f56d61af50dcacb103b11883217558426a49f
Bug 939902 - Remove outdated l10n trademark policy

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/1e54fc74c57f0aca7526d81d23395c0bdfa4632e
Merge pull request #1470 from kyoshino/bug-939902-remove-l10n-policy

Bug 939902 - Remove outdated l10n trademark policy

Comment 12

[Josh Mize [:jgmize]]

I reverted the commit above on 12-16 pending resolution of discussion here.

Comment 13

[raymond [:retornam] (inactive)]

Axel, can we go ahead and remove this now?

Comment 14

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

I'm moving that to Peiying, who's leading the conversation.

Comment 15

[Peiying Mo [:CocoMo]]

This topic is brought up again recently. It involves multiple parties with different perspectives.  We hope to have clearer guideline soon.

Comment 16

[Peiying Mo [:CocoMo]]

Finally we have some progress to report. The creative director and I have agreed to address this issue in phases.  

For this first phase, we will *NOT* touch Brand names (trademark/registered marks).  Product names alone and product names mixed with Brand names can be considered for localization.  There could be a few exceptions.  Right now this list of names is going through legal review.  Will announce the list to the communities as soon as I have the signoff.

Comment 17

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

Looks like it has been removed in Bug 442671. The bug is somehow private but the relevant PR can be found at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/2048