Closed Bug 960689 Opened 10 years ago Closed 10 years ago

Port or retire legal pages from SVN/PHP on mozilla.org

Categories

(www.mozilla.org :: Legacy PHP system, defect)

Product:
www.mozilla.org
Component:
Legacy PHP system
Version:
Production
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED FIXED

People

(Reporter: sgarrity, Assigned: sgarrity)

References

Details

(Whiteboard: [kb=1248856] )

Attachments

(4 files)

bug-960689-remove-legal-privacy.diff
499.62 KB, patch
kohei
: review+
Details | Diff | Splinter Review
Patch to remove /about/legal/ PHP page now redirected to SVN
15.11 KB, patch
kohei
: review+
Details | Diff | Splinter Review
Patch to remove en-US/third-party.html
3.66 KB, patch
pmac
: review+
Details | Diff | Splinter Review
bug-960689-last-legal-remove.diff
546 bytes, patch
pmac
: review+
Details | Diff | Splinter Review 
The follow legal pages remain in SVN on the old PHP website. They will need to be ported to Bedrock (the new website platform), archived, or removed:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_1.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_2.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/jan-2010/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/oct-2006/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/june-2008/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/jan-2009/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/articles.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/amendment.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en-content.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/sept-2009/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/notices-firefox/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/dec-2010/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/june-2011/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/dec-2012/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/june-2012/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/sept-2012/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-third-party.html
Hi Steven-

The following privacy urls can be deleted:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/jan-2010/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/oct-2006/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/june-2008/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/jan-2009/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en-content.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/sept-2009/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/notices-firefox/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/index.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/dec-2010/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/june-2011/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/dec-2012/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/june-2012/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/sept-2012/firefox.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-third-party.html
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/third-party.html

And this one needs to be ported to Bedrock:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html

I need to follow up with Legal on the remaining pages:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_1.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_2.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/articles.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/amendment.html

Thanks,
Jen
Whiteboard: [kb=1248856]
(In reply to Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch] from comment #2)
> And this one needs to be ported to Bedrock:
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html

What URL should this live at in Bedrock? Maybe just /privacy/firefox/

Also, if we remove the old versions of the Firefox privacy policy, should we remove the links to the historical versions from the bottom of the ported http://mozilla.com/legal/privacy/firefox.html page?

Also, it might be worth redirecting at least http://mozilla.com/legal/privacy/ to the new /privacy or /privacy/firefox/ page.
Oh, I think some of these old historical versions might be in bedrock: https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/1576

I'll look into it further.
Thanks, Steven.

I'll ask Legal about the historical versions again too.  In my last conversation, she said they could be deleted, but I'll confirm.
Steven-

Please note:  http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html  will be built from scratch by Kohei in bedrock per bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963816.   So the SVN file can be deleted when that work is done.
Hi Mika-

Just wanted to check in with you on the historical versions of Firefox privacy policies.

Do you want them to be live on mozilla.org?  Would you like us to save them for you somewhere offline?

Thx,
Jen
Flags: needinfo?(udevi)
Thanks,(In reply to Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch] from comment #7)
> Hi Mika-
> 
> Just wanted to check in with you on the historical versions of Firefox
> privacy policies.
> 
> Do you want them to be live on mozilla.org?  Would you like us to save them
> for you somewhere offline?

Thanks for checking.   No need to live on mozilla.org.  Saving offline for now would be great -- I'll check with Jishnu what our retention policy is so you have a consistent way to delete these documents.
Flags: needinfo?(udevi)
So can we remove all the archives from mozilla.org safely, including the current policy that will be replaced with attachment 8366347 [details]?
Flags: needinfo?(udevi)
Regarding the links that can Jen mentioned in comment 2:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_1.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_2.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/articles.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/amendment.html

It looks like Mozilla's corporate documents are kept at: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/documents/

Is there someone at the Foundation who is responsible for the content on this page? It's possible some of the links above should be moved over
Flags: needinfo?(udevi)
(In reply to Kohei Yoshino [:kohei] from comment #9)
> So can we remove all the archives from mozilla.org safely, including the
> current policy that will be replaced with attachment 8366347 [details]?

Hi Kohei and Jen,

I'm sorry to backtrack on what I said earlier (which was to just remove all older policies).  The feedback this week was that it would be better aligned with our transparent mission if we linked to a single webpage that contained all the historical privacy policies for all products (Firefox, Mozilla websites, etc.).  It's up to you whether you want to group the policies by category or date, or just have a long uncategorized list.  Also up to you whether you want to keep all older policies or cut off at a certain date.

Let me know if we should jump on vidyo to talk about this for a few minutes, since this is different from what I suggested earlier.
Thanks,
Mika
Hi-

Here's guidance from Mika on the non-privacy docs:

Migrate these pages and add links to them from the  Mozilla Foundation About page (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/about/), under the link " Bylaws of the Mozilla Foundation " : 
    * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_1.html 
    * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_2.html 

Migrate these pages and add links to them on the Mozilla Foundation About page (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/about/), under a new section called "Articles of Mozilla Corporation": 
    * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/articles.html 
    * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/amendment.html 

Migrate this page and add links to it on the Mozilla Foundation About page, under a new section called "Bylaws of Mozilla Corporation": 
    * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws.html 

Migrate this page to Bedrock:  
    * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html 

Thanks,
Jen (& Mika)
(In reply to Mika from comment #11)
> (In reply to Kohei Yoshino [:kohei] from comment #9)
> > So can we remove all the archives from mozilla.org safely, including the
> > current policy that will be replaced with attachment 8366347 [details]?
> 
> Hi Kohei and Jen,
> 
> I'm sorry to backtrack on what I said earlier (which was to just remove all
> older policies).  The feedback this week was that it would be better aligned
> with our transparent mission if we linked to a single webpage that contained
> all the historical privacy policies for all products (Firefox, Mozilla
> websites, etc.).  It's up to you whether you want to group the policies by
> category or date, or just have a long uncategorized list.  Also up to you
> whether you want to keep all older policies or cut off at a certain date.
> 
> Let me know if we should jump on vidyo to talk about this for a few minutes,
> since this is different from what I suggested earlier.
> Thanks,
> Mika

Hi Mika and Kohei-

We took care of the privacy policy archive with this page, correct?

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/archive/

Thx,
Jen
Flags: needinfo?(udevi)
Flags: needinfo?(kohei.yoshino)
Yes.
Flags: needinfo?(kohei.yoshino)
confirming what Kohei said - the links were moved to the privacy policy archive.
Flags: needinfo?(udevi)
Depends on: 997577
A big batch of these pages are now redirected to bedrock (thanks Kohei!).

Everything in /en-US/legal/privacy/ can go [1]

The only URL in there that doesn't seem to be nicely redirected to bedrock is http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/notices-firefox/index.html which seems to be redirecting to a 404 (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/legal/firefox/). I can't seem to find where that redirect is coming from though. Regardless, though, the PHP file behind it isn't being used.

The attached patch removes everything in /en-US/legal/privacy

[1]:
http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/en-US/legal/privacy/
Attachment #8419357 - Flags: review?(kohei.yoshino)
Comment on attachment 8419357 [details] [diff] [review]
bug-960689-remove-legal-privacy.diff

Review of attachment 8419357 [details] [diff] [review]:
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Thanks sgarrity! The patch looks good to me.

404 at /legal/firefox/ was my fault. Sent a PR to fix it:
https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/1982
Attachment #8419357 - Flags: review?(kohei.yoshino) → review+
Appled(In reply to Kohei Yoshino [:kohei] from comment #17)
> Review of attachment 8419357 [details] [diff] [review]:
> Thanks sgarrity! The patch looks good to me.

Applied in trunk in r128054, in tags/stage in r128055, and tags/production in r128056.

Leaving the bug open for the remaining files.
(In reply to Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch] from comment #12)
> Migrate these pages and add links to them from the  Mozilla Foundation About
> page (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/about/), under the link "
> Bylaws of the Mozilla Foundation " : 
>     * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_1.html 
>     * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws_amendment_2.html 

Proposed URLs for these two pages: 
 * http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/documents/bylaws-amendment-1/
 * http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/documents/bylaws-amendment-2/


> Migrate these pages and add links to them on the Mozilla Foundation About
> page (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/about/), under a new section
> called "Articles of Mozilla Corporation": 
>     * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/articles.html 
>     * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/amendment.html

Proposed URLs for these two pages: 
 * http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/documents/articles-of-incorporation/
 * http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/documents/articles-of-incorporation/amendment/
 

> Migrate this page and add links to it on the Mozilla Foundation About page,
> under a new section called "Bylaws of Mozilla Corporation": 
>     * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/bylaws.html 

Proposed URL:
 * http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/documents/bylaws/

> Migrate this page to Bedrock:  
>     * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html 

Proposed URL:
> * http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal/ (same, just without the .html) 


I'm not 100% sure the /documents/ portions of the URLs proposed above is necessary. It does match some of other files in bedrock, but may not be necessary. Thoughts?

Thanks - we're close on this one.
Flags: needinfo?(jbertsch)
Commit pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/8a0e7036695cea1a40f9ba5c6458219ce326af57
Add missing [PT] for /legal/firefox/

Bug 960689 Comment 16. @sgarrity noticed that /legal/firefox/ was 404.
Somehow /b/ [PT] was lost during development.
I'm porting the http://www.mozilla.org/about/legal.html page to Bedrock. The page contains this snippet:

"...terms and conditions located at http://www.mozilla.org/about/licensing.html."

That URL is now a redirected to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/licensing/

Is it ok to change the link (both where it points, and the actual text you see/click), or is that some how magic immutable legalese?
(In reply to Steven Garrity [:sgarrity] from comment #21)
> I'm porting the http://www.mozilla.org/about/legal.html page to Bedrock. The
> page contains this snippet:
> 
> "...terms and conditions located at
> http://www.mozilla.org/about/licensing.html."
> 
> That URL is now a redirected to
> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/licensing/
> 
> Is it ok to change the link (both where it points, and the actual text you
> see/click), or is that some how magic immutable legalese?

How about we make it like this since it is how we reference it later in the doc? Then change the url to be the bedrock url

"General Representation and Warranty. You represent and warrant that your use of Mozilla’s websites will be in accordance with Mozilla’s Privacy Policy, with these Legal Disclaimers and Limitations, with any applicable laws and regulations, and with any other applicable policy or terms and conditions, including without limitation those policies and terms and conditions located on our <a href="[foundation.licensing]">Licensing Policies page.</a>"

also, at the bottom change the url to the bedrock URL too:

"For more information about these and other licensing policies, please see our <a href="[foundation.licensing]">Licensing Policies page.</a>. If you have any other questions about complying with our licensing terms for this collection, you should email:"
Mike: we are porting over the legal page (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal.html) word-for-word over to the bedrock design that we use on all new pages. The only change that we are requesting is that in the legal statements it says "http://www.mozilla.org/about/licensing.html" directly in the text. That URL is no longer valid and it redirects to another URL (http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/licensing/). We would like to update the URL in the text and make it says "Licensing Policies page" instead of the URL itself. That is how it is referenced later in the text. The rest of the text is exactly the same.

Is this fine?
Flags: needinfo?(udevi)
Mika: comment 21 and 22 mention this minor change.
Also, should the mailing address on this page change to the new Mountain View address? Is Harvey still the appropriate name?
(In reply to Chris More [:cmore] from comment #24)
> Mika: comment 21 and 22 mention this minor change.

Yep, fine to replace the URL.  I changed the text - here's the one you should use:

"General Representation and Warranty. You represent and warrant that your use of Mozilla’s websites will be in accordance with Mozilla’s Privacy Policy, with these Legal Disclaimers and Limitations, with any applicable laws and regulations, and with any other applicable policy or terms and conditions, including without limitation our <a href="[foundation.licensing]">Licensing Policies.</a>"
Flags: needinfo?(udevi)
(In reply to Steven Garrity [:sgarrity] from comment #25)
> Also, should the mailing address on this page change to the new Mountain
> View address? Is Harvey still the appropriate name?

Please update to Mountain View.  Harvey's name should be replaced with: Denelle Dixon-Thayer.  If his title is also listed, please replace with "General Counsel and SVP Business Affairs"
:sgarrity: can you update your PR with comment 26 and comment 27 feedback?
Flags: needinfo?(jbertsch) → needinfo?(steven)
Commit pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/3f20d97da17cfb46c415945e259230efc91c8e65
Port /about/legal/ page to Bedrock
Also consolodate /about/* redirects to bedrock (/b/)
Refs Bug 960689
The requested updates where made and the page is in master in bedrock now. Once it has been deployed into production, I'll remove the old PHP pages.
Flags: needinfo?(steven)
Comment on attachment 8427376 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch to remove /about/legal/ PHP page now redirected to SVN

Review of attachment 8427376 [details] [diff] [review]:
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Pretty simple :)
Attachment #8427376 - Flags: review?(kohei.yoshino) → review+
(In reply to Steven Garrity [:sgarrity] from comment #31)
> Created attachment 8427376 [details] [diff] [review]
> Patch to remove /about/legal/ PHP page now redirected to SVN

Ah, you can also remove /ja/about/legal.html. I copied the file locally and will port that localized page to Bedrock.
FYI: Mozilla Japan prepared /ja/about/legal.html after GetPersonas.com was launched, because we have got some inquiries about Persona assets from Japanese copyright holders.
Hrm. I just noticed that the Digital Millennium Copyright Act Notice and Trademark Notices sections on /ja/about/legal.html had been replaced with notices based on Japanese laws. Also the current translation lacks the Site Licensing Policy section. So it cannot be simply ported to Bedrock until Bug 577778 is solved. I'll file a separate bug to deal with it.
(In reply to Kohei Yoshino [:kohei] from comment #35)
> I'll file a separate bug to deal with it.

We should probably wait until the legal page is revamped in Bug 997577. /ja/about/legal.html will continue to be available at

http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/ja/about/legal.html?view=log&pathrev=118844
http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/ja/about/legal.html?revision=118844&view=co
/ja/about/legal.html and /en-US/about/legal.html removed from trunk in r129135, tags/stage in r129136, and tags/production in r129137.
This patch removes en-US/third-party.html as per Comment #2 (the other files in that comment have already been removed).
Attachment #8439163 - Flags: review?(kohei.yoshino)
Attachment #8439163 - Flags: review?(kohei.yoshino) → review+
Patch from comment #30 applied in trunk in r129634. Merged to tags/stage in r129637 and tags/production in r129638.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Sorry I'm late here and thanks :pmac!
This patch removes the last remaining legal pages now redirected to bedrock.
Attachment #8443150 - Flags: review?(pmac)
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED → ---
Attachment #8443150 - Flags: review?(pmac) → review+
The patch bug-960689-last-legal-remove.diff is applied in trunk in r129712, tags/stage in r129713, and tags/production in r129714.

That's it! There are no more legal pages in the mozilla.com SVN repo!
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 10 years ago → 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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