Closed Bug 971439 Opened 10 years ago Closed 10 years ago

Migrate Mozilla Israel blog to WordPress Multisite

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(mozilla.org :: Server Operations: Community IT, task)

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RESOLVED WONTFIX

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(Reporter: Logan, Unassigned)

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This is a bug that will track the migration of Mozilla Israel's blog to our new WordPress Multisite installation. We are doing this to ensure security and consistency across all Community IT-hosted websites.

The cooperation of the maintainer of this WordPress site will be crucial in getting this done. I have requested information from the person who appears to be most involved, but please let us know if there is someone else who controls it.

As part of this process, we will need to know what plugins are necessary, as we will have to reinstall them as part of the transition. Some may be incompatible, so flexibility will be required in some cases.

As for first steps, can we first get an OK from the current maintainer of the WordPress site for the eventual transfer to our WordPress Multisite installation?
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First, please note that we currently not using the OVH instance for anything other than working slowly on building our future site, so I suggest to close this bug as WONTFIX in the meantime, as we are not using it for public access.

Given that said, please also note that our current site, which is still hosted outside of OVH is more than just WordPress; currently we use phpBB for community forum, MediaWiki to manage our wiki pages, WordPress and some custom scripts to connect it all together and even to rewrite some static content pages and we backup everything using an SSH/rsync connection. In fact, what forced us to delay the migration to OVH was some issues with the SSH access required to backup our site. 

If we opt-in to WordPress MU, I guess we could enjoy better performance and security than what we got used to in regular shared hosting, but it'd force us to remove everything else beside the basic WordPress installation, which is probably a big no-no because I afraid we'd prefer to keep our non-WordPress content accessible online.
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See Also: → 795178
(In reply to Tomer Cohen :tomer from comment #1)
> First, please note that we currently not using the OVH instance for anything
> other than working slowly on building our future site, so I suggest to close
> this bug as WONTFIX in the meantime, as we are not using it for public
> access.
 I'd quite like to move /all/ wordpress sites away from shared once this is running, if it is ideal to the community. I will certainly need to speak to others about this though

> Given that said, please also note that our current site, which is still
> hosted outside of OVH is more than just WordPress; currently we use phpBB
> for community forum, MediaWiki to manage our wiki pages, WordPress and some
> custom scripts to connect it all together and even to rewrite some static
> content pages and we backup everything using an SSH/rsync connection. In
> fact, what forced us to delay the migration to OVH was some issues with the
> SSH access required to backup our site. 
  We have discourse setup now. How about using that when there is proper procedure  for using it, instead of phpBB? Might not be ideal, just a suggestion, let me know what you think :)

As for MediaWiki, why not a subpage on wiki.mozilla.org? I'm seeing a few communities with their own wiki, maybe you could spread some light? Rather confused about the need for it.

> If we opt-in to WordPress MU, I guess we could enjoy better performance and
> security than what we got used to in regular shared hosting, but it'd force
> us to remove everything else beside the basic WordPress installation, which
> is probably a big no-no because I afraid we'd prefer to keep our
> non-WordPress content accessible online.
We can take the wordpress instance, leaving everything else at OVH. Maybe you could point at your site's structure?
Wordpress could be at the domain level, and subdomains for everything else. Delegate subdomains to OVH Shared, and the root domain to our Wordpress MU
(In reply to Tom Farrow [:Tad] from comment #2)
>  I'd quite like to move /all/ wordpress sites away from shared once this is
> running, if it is ideal to the community. I will certainly need to speak to
> others about this though

I've not said anything about other locales, but given that we (mozilla-il) currently don't have active content on the Mozilla shared instance, it is safe to ignore us for now. ☺

>   We have discourse setup now. How about using that when there is proper
> procedure  for using it, instead of phpBB? Might not be ideal, just a
> suggestion, let me know what you think :)
Discourse is very nice, and in fact I was thinking about using it for our local community in the past, but it is very resource savvy, so we didn't made it. Using the discourse instance could be very nice addon to communities, but I afraid we could not see it replacing other means anytime soon. You see, Discourse is a social network look-a-like, while local community forums are more for having discussions and support. Given that said, please note that we have some content on phpbb and we don't want it to disappears, and in addition to that we needs RTL support before we can think about anything seriously. 

> As for MediaWiki, why not a subpage on wiki.mozilla.org? I'm seeing a few
> communities with their own wiki, maybe you could spread some light? Rather
> confused about the need for it.
Again, the MediaWiki on wiki.mozilla.org doesn't fit our needs as it doesn't have good RTL support, and migrating to wiki.mozilla.org will break our links as well.

> We can take the wordpress instance, leaving everything else at OVH. Maybe
> you could point at your site's structure?
> Wordpress could be at the domain level, and subdomains for everything else.
> Delegate subdomains to OVH Shared, and the root domain to our Wordpress MU

Our current site structure (currently hosted on Dreamhost):

/news/* - WordPress content (news section)
/wiki/*, wiki.mozilla.org.il/* - MediaWiki
/board/* - phpBB
*, /firefox/*, etc. - static content (shtml)

In the future we plan to replace the static content with a content system. We are not working on it right now due to lack of time, but we might end up using WordPress for the static content. Again, I don't think it could be good for having everything Mozilla communities on consolidated hosting given that most communities can deal with installations and software updates.
Alright, since you're on your own host, I think we can go ahead and wontfix this.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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