101091 - Offline: start offline fails w/ quicklaunch

Status: VERIFIED WORKSFORME

(Core Graveyard :: Profile: BackEnd, defect)

Description

[Ralph Fox]

Background

Mozilla 0.9.4, with
(a) Multiple profiles
(b) Quick Launch active.
If I start Mozilla, then the "select user profile" window appears
(i.e. bug 86021 is fixed).


Problem

If the "work offline" checkbox is checked, then nothing appears to
happen when I click the "Start Mozilla" button.

I would expect Mozilla to start in off-line mode.

In this situation it is not possible to start Mozilla in off-line mode.


For comparison

If the "work offline" checkbox is not checked, then Mozilla starts 
as expected in online mode.

If quick launch is not active and the "work offline" checkbox is checked,
then Mozilla starts as expected in offline mode.

Comment 1

[Christopher Aillon (sabbatical, not receiving bugmail)]

*** Bug 102420 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 2

[Grace Bush]

I tested using a nightly build 2001100505 and cannot reproduce- 
two profiles, quick launch on, offline checked.  
I was able to create mail / send later  etc 

reporter, can you try with a more recent nightly?

Comment 3

[[not reading bugmail]]

still a problem on 2001100403 W2K see duplicate bug 102420.. 

all you have to do while mozilla is already running:

From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4+)
Gecko/20010929
BuildID:    2001092908

having quick enabled, using browser, try going work offline, close browser
window open systray quick-launch navigator, start mozilla
doesn't load profile in offline mode.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. using mozilla with quick launch enabled, 
using browser, choose File->work offline
2. close browser window 
3. open systray quick-launch 
4. choose navigator
5. choose profile->then start Mozilla

Actual Results:  Mozilla will not load profile again in offline mode checked

Expected Results:  Mozilla should load profile in offline mode with box checked

After unchecking Offline mode in Profile Manager, Start Mozilla will work. ->
goes online.


yup, still a problem.

Comment 4

[[not reading bugmail]]

I'll check it for W2K in 2001-10-05 - its possible we have seperate bugs.

Grace Bush you got working is just to start Mozilla with quick launch and
checking offline.. we know this works.. what the bug 102420 I filed is
different.. and probably the same for what the reporter filed for this bug as
well, its the different behavior that what you maybe are thinking.. 

Comment 5

[[not reading bugmail]]

bug is not fixed in 2001100503 on W2K.. does it work in win98?  if so then it is
an OS related quick launch bug.

Comment 6

[[not reading bugmail]]

current work around to use offline mode and quicklaunch is to exit mozilla from
quicklaunch tray, and start mozilla from scratch again.

I propose helpwanted, mozilla0.9.5, nsbranch.  As an end-user noticing this and
filing a bug in netscape too because it is a loss of functionality to change
severity to minor.

Comment 7

[Grace Bush]

cuz84d, 
are you using latest 0.9.4 build?  on 10/8 build - it does not allow for QL to
work with multiple profiles- see bug 101364 

I believe that makes this bug invalid on 0.9.4 branch since steps suggested in
reporting stated multiple profiles.  I will defer to ccarlen to decide- not sure
how 0.9.5 is behaving yet

If I have a single profile I can launch with QL, choose to work offline - close
and relaunch and I am still offline - I am still using same profile.  Note I may
quit QL and create a second profile - but then QL disappears- no preference for
turning it on exists 
tested on both Win98 and Windows 2000

There  may be another bug here- but it is not QuickLaunch related

I 

Comment 8

[Conrad Carlen (not reading bugmail)]

> I believe that makes this bug invalid on 0.9.4 branch since steps suggested in
> reporting stated multiple profiles.

That's right. This problem is trunk only. You'll never see the profile picker
(and therefore the "work offline" checkbox) on the branch in turbo mode. 

Comment 9

[[not reading bugmail]]

Ok, I understand that this would not work on the branch (netscape releases).  So
maybe the problem stems from QL - registry keys and multiple profiles, or the
profile manager Front-End to Back-End code.. or pref write out on startup after
Profile Manager or Exit Mozilla from QL.

still doesn't work, 

grace, conrad, I just tried it on my current build, 2001100903, W2K again,
doesn't work.

did you see my steps I used to reproduce this in bug 102420? 

it is a problem if you start by using the browser online first with QL running
[or you can enable it if it is not running at this point (possibly because prefs
for this dont get updated till you close down Mozilla From QL], 

then go to File->Work Offline, 
then close all browser windows, 
move mouse down to quicklaunch, 
click on Navigator, 

the Profile Manager will appear given multiple profiles, (at this time the work
offline checkbox is already checked from using File->Quick Lauch) 

try clicking on start Mozilla, nothing happens.. 

will attach a desktop screenshot also.

Comment 10

[[not reading bugmail]]

maybe the problem stems from (QL & registry keys) and multiple profiles with
several builds installed from ns6.1 and 094 milestone, and builds 09-26 to 10-09.. 
I have them all in seperate directories.. at this point in time it is not
feasable to try this on a clean copy of windows with the latest build.  So if it
is possible for someone who hasn't installed all these builds at one point to
try this to verify this problem?  I've already tried to search the registry for
anything and everything related to ns6.1 and mozilla's builds, and strip it out.

Comment 11

[[not reading bugmail]]

Attachment: While already using online go to offline mode, close all windows open QL, choose naviagator PM doesn't start Mozilla with multiple profiles.

Comment 12

[[not reading bugmail]]

adding one more thing that I just thought of, not sure it this really is the
difference here or not... I have multiple builds installed.  Each new build I
download I change the directory so its reflects the build ID.  So I will then
create a new profile based on the Build id (the directories is the build id too)
so I end up with multiple profiles; 1 from each build.  

Is there a chance that because new profiles are built from each build rather
than the same build that it would not load?  Then if this is the problem it is
related to multiple builds installed or multi profiles, which would then cause
this not to happen otherwise, you are using the same steps, but overriding each
mozilla.org directory every time you install a new one.

If that is the cause then this bug needs a different summary?

-dennis

Comment 13

[[not reading bugmail]]

Attachment: here is another shot of my desktop; showing mozilla.org dir structure; my shortcut for each profile; my profile directory and mozilla running 1009 with QL enabled

Comment 14

[[not reading bugmail]]

Attachment: lastly, here adds a shot including the properties of all my shortcuts; and the point I made above about multiple builds and profiles from each build in mozilla window display too.

Comment 15

[[not reading bugmail]]

sorry for the spam,

pardon the statement above it was suppose say File->Work offline not File->Quick
Launch.

Comment 16

[[not reading bugmail]]

The only other option I see here is that even with QL disabled, if you go
start->Mozilla to profile picker, select your profile, it will always want to go
online.. then if you go to file->Offline, the close your browser windows, start
mozilla from shortcut again it wants to go online.. 

I maybe have narrowed it down to state-saving on last use, and how to startup
once we know what the last state save is, because while mozilla wants to always
start in online mode (unless you check the box) in quick launch (a state save is
checked, and shows up in the profile picker as offline, but could be conflicting
with Mozilla's start code that checks the state (checkbox, and/or state save
before starting) and probably wants to use online, even though for the current
session the state=offline.

-dennis

Comment 17

[[not reading bugmail]]

Then the logic doesn't know what to do, until the state save = mozilla default
option and is stuck in a endless loop it can't figure itself out of and doesn't
realize the state to startup in is suppose to be offline. 

-if you dont agree at all feel free to tear it all apart!

Comment 18

[Conrad Carlen (not reading bugmail)]

> I maybe have narrowed it down to state-saving on last use

Yes. The offline state is never saved. There's no code which even attempts to do
so. This bug has little to do with profiles (except the checkbox is in its UI)
or QL. This offline checkbox is so useless, it was discussed on a bug somewhere
(can't find it) that it should be removed from the UI until the whole offline
mode implementation is reworked.

For a bug which addresses offline mode in general, see bug 82487. 

Comment 19

[[not reading bugmail]]

Ok I understand,

Thanks Conrad,

So its a bug with its currently implementation, and I'm not sure whether then in
a case like this: add depends on 82487, and resolve because it is a dependence
based on the resolution or resolve as a dup.

Comment 20

[Grey Hodge (jX)]

Since this is obviously real, I'm confirming for now. We can change it later if
need be to reflect current status.

Comment 21

[Conrad Carlen (not reading bugmail)]

CC'ing Sean. Sean - do you want to roll this into bug 82487? I don't think this
has anything to do with QuickLaunch but is a general problem with offline mode.

Comment 22

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

I'm still seeing this problem in Moz 0.9.8

Comment 23

[[not reading bugmail]]

It hasn't been worked on yet.

Comment 24

[Grace Bush]

try a recent nightly-

Comment 25

[[not reading bugmail]]

Grace, still not working, latest nightly 2-19-15 w2k, conrad mentions bug 82487
hopefully Sean will take care of this issue, and he doesn't seem to have touched
it yet.

Comment 26

[Sean Su]

sorry, I haven't looked at the other bug because it's not marked as a 0.9.9 bug.
 It's fine by me if this bug is rolled into bug 82487 since conrad mentioned it.

Comment 27

[Renee Lingk]

Add me to the list please, I cannot get Mozilla to load, especially after a
screen  saver has been used.  I then did "ctrl+alt+del", to find that Mozilla is
loading in after 3 other programs, and not in the top spot of windows (I am
using ME), after explorer, cffmon, and pdesk, which means that the base of the
program does not recognize that this should be loaded into the memory, and those
programs only run in the backround.

Comment 28

[Grace Bush]

using build 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021210

I am able to launch in offline mode, get correct warnings appropriate to being
in that mode.  I have multiple profilea and am using QL.

Please try with recent nightlies.

marking wfm

Comment 29

[Grace Bush]

verified