137738 - t-systems.com - T-Systems International homepage blocks Mozilla

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: English Other, defect)

Description

[helfesrieder]

Pointing Mozilla 0.99 (official milestone release) to the companies
international (www.t-systems.com) website, leads to execution of the
script "http://www.t-systems.com/TSIeng/cda/script_nobrowser.html", which
generates the following output (and blocks entrance to the site):

"
For the most comfortable preview of our pages we would recomend the following
browsers:
- Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 or 5.5 or
- Netscape 4.7 or higher (not 6.0).

In order to use full functionallity of our pages
Java Script should be activated.

If your are behind a firewall
and do not have enougth rights to activate Java Script
please refer to your systems administrator. 
"

Comment 1

[Mathieu Pillard [:mat]]

confirming... 

Comment 2

[Jayesh Sheth]

T-Systems seems to be using object-based browser sniffing to block out all
browsers  except Internet Explorer 5.0 or 5.5 and Netscape 4.x. Their site seems
to test whether the browser supports document.all (msie) or document.layers
(Netscape 4.x only, *not* mozilla or Netscape 6.x). 

This site successfully locks out Opera, which can change its user agent string.
It also locks out Internet Explorer 4.x.

I would like to write a letter to the webmaster of T-Systems; before I do that
however, I want to make sure I have identified the problem correctly and have
proposed a good solution. I think there is an article at devedge.netscape.com
about using  JavaScript for Netscape 6 / Mozilla to enable support for Layers
through  "emulation".

Any thoughts?

Regards,
- Jay

Comment 3

[Gilles Durys]

*** Bug 145502 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 4

[Frederik Reiss]

The German site (http://www.t-systems.de/) blocks mozilla too,
but the austrian site works (http://www.t-systems.at/).

Comment 5

[Michael Schumacher]

no longer blocking, but same issues as 146544

Comment 6

[Mathieu Pillard [:mat]]

so this bug should be a dupe of 146544... anyone ?

Comment 7

[Michael Schumacher]

comment #4 suggests that they may have independent servers - not sure if a dupe
is the right thing here

Comment 8

[Daniel Küstner]

WFM. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210

Comment 9

[Sven C. Berger]

WFM
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312

Comment 10

[Kai Lahmann (is there, where MNG is)]

wfm

Comment 11

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

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