166697 - (jvc.pl) JVC Poland prevents browsers other than MSIE from accessing the page.

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: Polish, defect, P1)

Description

[Peter Bartecki]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; PL; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; PL; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826

JVC Poland checks the browser and displays very kindly advices to use MSIE when
accessing their pages. 
 Company which produced the page has been contacted on 08/29/2002.
 A promise to update the page was received.

Workaround: Bypass the main page (with browser check) and you should be more or
less ok. http://www.jvc.pl/home.pl

Summary of this bug is available in Polish on MozillaPL's online services page:
http://mozillapl.org/index.php?name=MozillaPLDocs&light=polska

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Go to: http://www.jvc.pl/


Actual Results:  
Access denied.

Expected Results:  
Page displays.

Comment 1

[Jacek Piskozub]

Confirming and accepting.

Comment 2

[Marek Stępień [:marcoos, inactive]]

There's no "home.pl", it has changed to:
http://www.jvc.pl/home.php

Comment 3

[Jacek Piskozub]

The page works for me when I use mozilla 1.0.1 but does not woek when I use a
recent Phoenix build. Strange. Needs more investigating.

Comment 4

[Jacek Piskozub]

Well, now it does not work with mozilla 1.0.1. I must have been lucky when I
tried for the first time.

Comment 5

[Jacek Piskozub]

Workaround: page http://www.jvc.pl/home.php does not check the browser's UA
string. Going directly to it (or bookmarking it) makes the page work with Mozilla.

Comment 6

[Jacek Piskozub]

I've tested the page. It allows in all UA strings for versions of Netscape 6 ot
7. It disallows all Mozilla or Phoenix UA strings I tried.

Comment 7

[Jacek Piskozub]

No wonder it does what it does. The script line for Netscape6 is
NS6 = (!document.layers) &&
(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Netscape')!=-1)?true:false;

It should be of course
NS6 = (!document.layers) && (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko')!=-1)?true:false;

Comment 8

[Jacek Piskozub]

I sent an evangelic letter to [e-mail] (the company responsible for
www.jvc.pl page).

Comment 9

[Jacek Piskozub]

jvc.pl replied that my change (Netscape -> Gecko) has been implemented. I
checked that the page is open now both to Mozilla and Phoenix.

Marking as FIXED.

Comment 10

[Peter Bartecki]

I just checked jvc.pl in my older Mozilla build (2002070204 on Win Me) and it's
still blocked. I'll try to investigate it later - can not install new build here.

Comment 11

[Peter Bartecki]

This is weird... Why at all this guys allow to display their pages only by some
(very few) browsers? One can tailor the page to look $*(*&$ awsome under browser
XXX but he should have the door wide open to let other browsers at least _try_
to attempt to display the page.. 

One typo in your UA and your favourite browser is out of the 'magic circle' of
the browsers with THE PRIVILEGE to display THE PAGE. Funny.

 Verified fixed.

Comment 12

[Jacek Piskozub]

Piotr: clearing the cache and try again. 

Another question: have you changed the User Agent string? Maybe you do not have
the Mozilla one? They now do have the following in their code:
NS6 = (!document.layers) && (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko')!=-1)?true:false;
so unless you pretend to be Opera or IE (because you do not support document.all
you will not be recognised by the script as IE), you should get in.

Comment 13

[Peter Bartecki]

That what I was actually talking about. Think we should propose owners of every
not working page reported here a way of allowing not only Mozilla to access
their pages.
 Just a general thought.. 
 As right now we have kind of the same situation - the only difference is that
Mozilla was 'let to sit at the table' - but if someone has browser which is not
accepted, he will be not allowed to even try..

 What I'm saying is - don't just enable Mozilla but really open it UP..

Comment 14

[Jacek Piskozub]

True, but much more difficult to do that convincing a webmaster to open up to
one more browser :-(

Comment 15

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

tech evang june 2003 reorg