Closed
Bug 171600
Opened 22 years ago
Closed 21 years ago
Implement work offline
Categories
(Firefox :: General, enhancement)
Tracking
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VERIFIED
FIXED
Firebird0.8
People
(Reporter: ipgliter, Assigned: bugs)
References
Details
The browser offers an history access in tools but it not includes the posibility of working offline. Is it to be implemented in future versions?.
Comment 1•22 years ago
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This isn't likely to happen any time soon. Hyatt has said that he'd like to get off-line working sometime so ->hyatt.
Assignee: blaker → hyatt
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Comment 2•22 years ago
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Well, you can start Phoenix offline via the Profile Manager; or you can open the JavaScript console and evaluate the following expression (on one line): Components.classes['@mozilla.org/network/io-service;1'] .getService(Components.interfaces.nsIIOService).offline = true;
Updated•22 years ago
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Summary: work offline → Implement work offline
Target Milestone: --- → Phoenix0.5
Updated•22 years ago
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Target Milestone: Phoenix0.5 → Phoenix0.6
Updated•22 years ago
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Severity: normal → enhancement
Comment 3•22 years ago
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Thank you commenter #2. Anyway I can execute that statement outside of the console? My idea is that if this can be so simply executed from the Javascript console, then it should be pretty easy to implement this. Or I could do it myself with PrefBar.
Comment 4•22 years ago
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You will need XPConnect privileges to execute that line of script.
Updated•22 years ago
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OS: Windows 98 → All
Comment 6•21 years ago
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hyatt knows what to do here to make this work. Maybe for 0.7
Target Milestone: Phoenix0.6 → Phoenix0.7
Comment 7•21 years ago
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Is this the same sort of thing as starting at a certain page, spidering out "x" number of links, saving those links to the harddrive in a temp directory on local harddrive, logging out and then having those pages available for browsing when not connected to the net? It would be super handy to have that for laptops...
Comment 8•21 years ago
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Shouldn't this be an extension like Thunderbird has?
Is this feature really still needed? We can change status online <-> offline very natural and transparent. Thus users don't need to consider if it's online or offline.
Comment 10•21 years ago
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Natural and transparent? In Mozilla, yes. But Firebird neither has the statusbar icon nor the menu entry. It's a bit more complicated. Have a look at comment 2! I prefer the nice Javascript hack. ;-)
Comment 11•21 years ago
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i rarely did use it in IE and I really don't need to view cached pages its still a lot more useful than stupid cut/copy/paste buttons
Comment 12•21 years ago
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Has anyone looked into expanding/duplicating the extension mentioned in comment 8?
Comment 13•21 years ago
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The Thunderbird extension can be found here: http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/extensions.html#Offline
Updated•21 years ago
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Target Milestone: Firebird0.7 → Firebird0.8
Comment 14•21 years ago
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*** Bug 215751 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Updated•21 years ago
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QA Contact: asa
Comment 15•21 years ago
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i think an extension for this has been made by "pike" and it works great you can find it at: http://pike.p5.org.uk/mozilla/#wo
Comment 16•21 years ago
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Pike recommends http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/#offlinefb
Comment 17•21 years ago
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Since there's an extension for this, I recommend marking this WONTFIX. People that want offline functionality can use the extension.
Comment 18•21 years ago
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Just because there is an extension, doesn't mean that this shouldn't be implemented. The presence of an extension along with 40 votes allocated to this 'bug' suggests to me that it might be nice to have this in the default install.
Comment 19•21 years ago
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If there's an extension, then the feature *is* implemented. You want it bundled. I think that's reasonable. Ben? /be
Assignee: hyatt → bugs
Comment 20•21 years ago
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Seems to me from the earlier comments in this bug that this has already been planned for inclusion by default -- why would the availablity of an extension change this? Autoscroll and the styleswitcher came directly from extensions.
Comment 21•21 years ago
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FWIW: Let me add that both extensions mentioned here (in comments #15 and #16) do not currently seem to work with (some?) localized builds of FB. Installing them in the German FB 0.7 just results in the status bar being replaced by a big panel containing the text "<menuitem ...." in a red font (don't have the full text right now as I haven't got the German build on this machine).
Comment 22•21 years ago
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Quoting the Firebird charter: "...The goal was, and is not to have more or less features than any other client (Mozilla included) but to have the right set of features to let people get their jobs done..." Many users all over the world still connect to the internet via dialup. For those users who do not spend a long period of time on the internet, or for whom limited ISP choice is available, billing is per unit time, rather than flat rate. Thus for many users it is IMPERATIVE that it is possible to view cached pages offline, minimising time online without having to explicitly save each and every page viewed. This feature requires a minimum level of functionality: 1) Switch online/offline without needing to restart the browser 2) Automatically work offline if a page is uncached, and a connection is neither available nor permitted by the user. 3) Automatically work offline if a page is uncached, and a connection is not available, but permitted by the user. 4) Indicate in some manner which links and history items are unavailable when working offline, otherwise (2) and (3) would keep pestering the user. Relying on the extension mechansim currently has the following shortcomings: a) Only (1) is implemented. b) Clicking a link whilst "working online" with no connection available destroys the cached page. c) (2), (3) and (4) are not implemented. d) Pike has indicated that there is no immediate prospect of future development on his extension. e) The extension is not listed on the main extensions page f) Most of our target audience (many of whom are IE users) will never change the default settings, and will most likely never even see the profile dialog. They will therefore be under the impression that Firebird does not support offline working. Although points (a) - (e) are fixable, point (f) is fatal when combined with the Firebird Charter and the requirement for this feature when working over dialup. I would like to support some of the points above by observing that: i) This feature has been repeatedly requested in MZ forums, despite several threads on the same page about it and the existence of an extension. ii) There are now over 40 votes for this feature. iii) This feature requires only a single menu item, and almost all the required code is already in the core. This feature will therefore bloat neither interface nor codebase. iv) This feature is offered by Mozilla, Netscape, Internet Explorer, Navigator and Opera, to name but a few. Users migrating from these browsers will be expecting to see this feature. To summarize: This feature is vital for many dialup users, and present in rival browsers. I believe the Firebird Charter requires its inclusion on the first point alone, and by the second leaving it out will result in a reduction in potential user base. I have also stated a number of discrete points in favour of the change.
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Comment 23•21 years ago
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Fixed.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Comment 24•21 years ago
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Ben's comment 23 marked this as fixed - but I don't see any mention of a patch. Does this mean it will be "fixed" by bundling an extension in the default installation? What about the possible bug(s) raised in comment 21 about the extension(s) breaking under localised builds?
Comment 25•21 years ago
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Re: Comment 21 I am the extension's author pointed in comment #16. Your problem doesn't occurs for me (with contributed 0.7 de-DE build, clean profile and offline ext. I made). Re: Comment 24 The offline feature is implemented. See: http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=MozillaTinderboxAll&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fbrowser+mozilla%2Ftoolkit&sortby=Date&date=explicit&mindate=12%2F01%2F2003+16%3A29&maxdate=12%2F01%2F2003+16%3A59&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot
Comment 26•21 years ago
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Peter: the main Firebird devs don't have to attach a patch before fixing something, as they don't have to get a review. See http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/review.html
Comment 27•21 years ago
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*** Bug 231693 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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