175975 - (arimr.gov.pl) arimr.gov.pl - I do not like ARIMR web page [document.all, document.layers]

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: Polish, defect, P1)

Description

[Peter Bartecki]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016

First of all way tooooo many gifs.

Second if you go through the wall of never ending gifs list (you may find 
English - http://www.arimr.gov.pl/witamy_e.html 
or Polish - http://www.arimr.gov.pl/witamy.html start point handy) there's no
reward at the end. 

Site uses document.all and document.layers to build menu navigation - for exampe
here: http://www.arimr.gov.pl/sapard.html

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Go to http://www.arimr.gov.pl/sapard.html
2.Click on lefthand menu.


Actual Results:  
Nothing happens

Expected Results:  
New page loads.

Looks like it's time to haunt on the Government sites...

Comment 1

[Jacek Piskozub]

Confirming and accepting.

Comment 2

[Jacek Piskozub]

From the page source: 
Author: Mateusz Mazur
Reply-to: [e-mail]

The problem with the page is strange. It defines 
ie4 = (document.all)? true:false
but it never uses it. It seems ie4 is always the default but neither
document.all nor window.event are used. Therefore I'm not sure why Mozilla does
not see the scrollable text in the page center.

Comment 3

[Jacek Piskozub]

OK. Found it. The reason is http://www.arimr.gov.pl/js/dynlayer.js

This is an old version of DynAPI 
(formerly http://www.dansteinman.com/dynapi/, now
http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/)
which does not support Mozilla (and therefore Netscape 6/7)

Comment 4

[Jacek Piskozub]

Mateusz Mazur <[e-mail]> is cetainly the same Mateusz Mazur who used
<[e-mail]> address on Usenet groups until December 2001 then
<[e-mail]> until August 2002 and since September uses
<[e-mail]>. The time seqence of this Google Groups serch
result is compelling. Of course, I know how to de-spamify the last address.

Comment 5

[Jacek Piskozub]

Probably using the Gecko corrected version of the 1999 Dynapi library upgraded
by Bob Clary http://www.bclary.com/dynapi/ would work. It is hard to test it
remotely as the scripts depend on local directory names.

Comment 6

[Jacek Piskozub]

Sent an evangelic letter with the dynapi advice to info, postmaster, webmaster 
@arimr.gov.pl with BCC: copies to [e-mail] and matmaz AT wp.pl 

Comment 7

[Peter Bartecki]

 [e-mail] has been contacted on Jun. 04, 2002 by one of our users.
Reply has been received on Jul. 29, 2002. It's content (in Polish) can be read
on MozillaPL.org Forum: http://mozillapl.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5587#5581

Comment 8

[Jacek Piskozub]

Second evangelic letter sent.

Comment 9

[Jacek Piskozub]

I got a replay from [e-mail] that the new standard comaptible
version is being prepared.

Comment 10

[Jacek Piskozub]

No progress. Futuring the bug.

Comment 11

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

tech evang june 2003 reorg

Comment 12

[Jacek Piskozub]

It seems the site is fixed. Marking as such.

Comment 13

[Peter Bartecki]

Yup it really was :)
Marking Verified.