192853 - Spam blocks busted (or severely limited) in 1.3b release

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(MailNews Core :: Filters, defect)

Description

[Mike McCallister]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210

My Mozilla 1.3a build caught most spam that made it my way.  I painstakingly
reviewed the past 4 years of email and marked as spam the spam that I didn't
manage to delete before.  I was blown away by how accurate the new spam filters
worked in 1.3a.  Then I upgraded to 1.3b and now all spam gets through.

So then I thought, well lets make a backup of training.dat and start over.  So I
did the same process ALL over again - no results. Spam gets in undetected.  So,
as a last result (since I sys admin several qmail mail servers) I thought that I
would just find POP3 accounts that have not logged in in the past year but still
receive email (the accounts have been marked for deletion as well).  Found 7000+
pure SPAM emails (the ones that just bother the hell out of you when you see
their subjects in your inbox) on the first two I try.  So I download those to a
seperate POP3 account that I set up in Mail/News and mark them all as SPAM.  My
new training.dat file is now 1.6MB.  I move them to the "Junk" folder on my main
POP3 account.

NO improvement at all.  1.3a caught almost all Spam after feeding it about 700
emails as samples.  1.3b was shown close to 8000 spam emails and now ALL spam
gets through.

Therefore, I am left with the conclusion that something is up with 1.3b.  In
fact, when I initially tried to transfer 7000+ newly downloaded spam emails to
the Junk folder, Mozilla crashed and the feedback agent sent you guys something.

I hope it can be fixed, I miss the spam killing power of 1.3a.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Download email
2.Spam gets in
3.Curse spammer
4.Mark as spam and moce to Junk
5.Repeat process

Actual Results:  
left with smelly rotten spam in my inbox - keep in mind that qmail is even
checking 4 RBLs before it gets here

BTW - I have LOTS of spam if you want it for your junk newsgroup.  Not sure what
the policy is for that.  I am assuming it was posted in the hopes of training
the bayesian filter?

Expected Results:  
i liked what 1.3a did - it marked the spam

FEATURE REQUEST:
Bayesian (or however you spell it) is cool.  You guys should really check out
this program too:  http://www.cloudmark.com/products/spamnet/ (only works in
outlook).

That program is based on the network provided by this open source software:
http://razor.sourceforge.net/.

It is DAMN GOOD at killing Spam.  Perhaps a combination of the two?

Comment 1

[Mike McCallister]

ARGGHHHHHHHHH!

the autoreply i got from submitting this bug WAS marked as spam

ironic isn't it!!!

at least we know it does mark some emails as spam :-)

Comment 2

[GA]

reference: 

bug #192853
bug #193084
bug #197886
bug #172677

Comment 3

[Ralf Hauser]

Your RFE is already available as
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153522 (you may want to get on their
cc-list)

Comment 4

[Mike Cowperthwaite]

Mike McAllister, is this bug still an issue for you?  Have you upgraded to 1.3
Final or 1.4?  Have you checked the bugs cited in comment 2 (or checked Bugzilla
itself) to see if you have a duplicate report?

Comment 5

[Joe Infla]

closing due to nonresponse.  Please reopen if this occurs in a new build with
fresh profile, or is otherwise reproducible.  One testing note: try marking at
least one junk and one non-junk (although I think the bug concerning that was
fixed long ago).