230890 - Macromedia.com - Incorrect embedding of Macromedia Flash Movie causes it to be absent

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: English US, defect)

Description

[Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031209 Firebird/0.7 StumbleUpon/1.899
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031209 Firebird/0.7 StumbleUpon/1.899

No Flash movie is displayed on the Macromedia.com hompepage due to incorrect
embedding.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
Go to the URI given (Macromedia homepage) with ECMAScript and Macromedia Flash
enabled.


Actual Results:  
A Macromedia Flash movie was not shown.

Expected Results:  
The author intended a Macromedia Flash movie at the URI,
http://www.macromedia.com/swf/homepage/fma/en_us/FMA.swf , to be displayed at
the top of the page.

It seems that this bug is caused by Macromedia.com embedding Macromedia Flash
movies incorrectly and is an incarnation of bug 180378 (the general bug for this
problem).

The object element is created by external ECMAScript.  The object element
created by the script has no data
attribute<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/objects.html#adef-data> (but instead
uses the param element in a non-standard way that only MSIE understands).

Bug is present in Mozilla, MFb and Opera.

Comment 1

[Patrick]

Site wfm Moz 2004011409 [ad for Director MX 2004].
I looked at the site yesterday and it also noticed that their main flash part
was missing. Since i upgraded my build since, i don't know if THEY fixed it, or
the new MOZ made it go away.

Can you try again, after clearing your cache?

Comment 2

[Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley]

Marked invalid.  I should have checked with clean profile.

Although it did not work for me with my relatively recent builds of SeaMonkey &
MFb  before -- I can't download the latest due to restrictions on my Internet
access -- it now *WFM* with the same builds with a clean profile.

Macromedia have *not* changed their webpage and they still use the object
element incorrectly.  There is a non-standard embed element within the object
element which is probably how Gecko is displaying it correctly.

I have no idea why it would not display in my normal profiles -- this seems very
strange.  And, yes, Macromedia Flash movies displayed fine with both browsers
with the normal profile when embedded in pages that follow the HTML standard.

Comment 3

[Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley]

Maybe this is a bug with Mozilla that causes this site not to work with
non-fresh profiles for some reason, but I don't know how this could be
verified/investigated.

Comment 4

[Patrick]

i guess the proper resolution for this one would be WFM. After all, it works for
you and it works for me :)

IMHO invalid is typically reserved for things like "it's not a bug, it's a feature"

Anyway, i'll leave it like this and happy you managed to get things working