Closed
Bug 271729
Opened 20 years ago
Closed 19 years ago
No Automatic Filter For Global Inbox
Categories
(MailNews Core :: Filters, enhancement)
MailNews Core
Filters
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(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
FIXED
People
(Reporter: afranke, Assigned: Bienvenu)
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mscott
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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0 This feature should really be added. I find it quite annoying that I have to manually apply filters every time mail is checked. Why would you not make that even an option? Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3.
Comment 1•20 years ago
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This is currently classed as an enhancement. Surely this is a defect right? There is nothing in the release notes or GUI that indicates this functionality is not available.
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Comment 2•20 years ago
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You set up filters for each incoming pop3 server, not for the local folders account. Until 1.0, there was a bug where creating filters would create filters for the local folders account, when instead, it should create them for the pop3 incoming server. So yes, this is an enhancement, to have global filters that apply to all incoming pop3 servers that deliver mail into the global inbox.
Comment 3•20 years ago
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(In reply to comment #2) > So yes, this is an enhancement, to have global filters that apply to all > incoming pop3 servers that deliver mail into the global inbox. Well, this should be done automaticly. It is not an enchnchancement - is a misleading thread to a user... IMO a poor interface design.
Comment 4•20 years ago
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To me, it's a show stopper, as I'm getting totally sick of having to run the filters manually each time I get new mail, and attempting to set the filters for each POP3 account, as David Bienvenu suggests does not work, I can either have no filters on the POP3 account, or filters on the Global Inbox that work, but do not get actioned when new mail arrives.
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Comment 5•20 years ago
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setting filters on pop3 accounts with the global inbox works fine for me, and I haven't heard any other reports that it doesn't work...are you saying that having filters on the pop3 accounts breaks running filters after the fact?
Comment 6•20 years ago
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Attempting to set filters on POP3 accounts is totally broken here, I am them through the UI, and they disappear next time TB is restarted. I wonder if it's because I only have a single POP3 account (I use Global Inbox only to get rid of the seperate POP3 and Local Folders).
Comment 7•20 years ago
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Adam Franke(reporter of this bug), Mark Gillespie and Kamil Dzielinski, if you say "I have to run manually", read next Thunderbird FAQ first(especially "Important:" part), please. http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Filters Then read comment #2 and comment #4 by David Bienvenu again. Then analyze your problem, and try to find what is flaw, or try to discuss on enhancement to resolve your problem. By the way, please note that bugzilla is not for saying complaints nor Q&A. Bugzilla is for analysis of problem/finding flaw/finding solution, and discussion on enhancement/finding best solution for the enhancement.
Comment 8•20 years ago
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OK, will try to explain the problems I am seeing here with 1.0 release of TB on Win32 platform. My setup: Using Global Inbox, with a single POP3 account (using global inbox to get rid of the Local Folders AND the account folder, as I only want 1 inbox). Problem 1 - Filters do not run automatically (this is the documented shortcomming of Global Inboxes) Steps to reproduce: 1/ Create message filters for local folders, when mail arrives, the do not get run automatically. Tools, Run Filters On Folder DOES work however, indicating the filters work, just not the triggering. Problem 2 - The famous disappearing filter trick Steps TO Reproduce: 1/ Higlight the Inbox (the only inbox) 2/ Select Manage Message Filters (from the R/H pane) 3/ Filters are shown for Local Folders 4/ Click "Filters For" and select POP3 account, no filters are shown 5/ Click "Filters For" and go back to the Local Folders. - No filters are shown 6/ Does not matter what "Filters For" is now selected, filters are never displayed NOTE: The only thing I have changed from default, is the naming of Local Folders, I have renamed mine to Email (this may or may not make a difference to this) Problem 3 - Filters cannot be set on individual POP3 accounts when using global inbox Steps TO Reproduce: 1/ Higlight the Inbox (the only inbox) 2/ Select Manage Message Filters (from the R/H pane) 3/ Filters are shown for Local Folders 4/ Click "Filters For" and select POP3 account, no filters are shown 5/ Add a new filter using New button, enter some filter details (does not matter what) 6/ Filter is then shown. 7/ Click "Filters For" and select local folders, filter is still shown!!! 8/ Click "Filter For" and select News And Bloggs, filter is still shown!!! 9/ Close Thunderbird and reopen, reopen Manage Message Filter. 10/ Select "Filter For" and select POP3 account, filter is NOT shown. Hope this helps, I know it's several problems here, and it may be that we need to create several bugzilla entries for all these, but I am trying to show that there is NO current workaround for having filters run automatically when using Global Inbox, because setting the filters on the POP3 account simply does not work (they disappear when TB is restarted).
Comment 9•20 years ago
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(In reply to comment #8) > Problem 2 - The famous disappearing filter trick > NOTE: The only thing I have changed from default, is the naming of Local > Folders, I have renamed mine to Email (this may or may not make a difference to > this) (Q1) What did you rename to "Email"? How did you rename?(TB's UI,Text editor,...) (a) Renamed account name from "Local Folders" to "Email" (b) Renamed directry of "Local Folders" under mail directry to "Email" (c) Renamed other to "Email" ( Q1-2 : What is other? How? ) (Q2) When did you rename something to "Email"? ( Between which steps in "Step to reproduce" ) ( of your Problem 1/Problem 2/Problem 3? ) > Problem 3 - Filters cannot be set on individual POP3 accounts when using global inbox (Q3) Is this when default status? Or after you renamed something to "Email"? > Problem 1 - Filters do not run automatically (this is the documented > shortcomming of Global Inboxes) (Q4) Is this when default status? Or after you renamed something to "Email"? Anyway, Mark Gillespie, see your prefs.js, then think about what "naming" means and what will happen if name of something is changed, please.
Comment 10•20 years ago
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Had some time to look at this today. Created a new profile, and guess what. Everything works as expected, I can create a filter on the POP3 inbox (using same method as before), I even renamed my profiles as I did with my other profile!! Even the "Get Mail" button has started working...!!! Seems my profile is somehow screwed. (it a profile I have been using since about TB 0.3) I would rather not post my prefs.js here, but if any of the developers want a copy of it, to reproduce the problems I have been describing, please email me. Of course this "No Automatic Filter For Global Inbox" defect still stands, but I now have a working workaround.
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Comment 11•20 years ago
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sure, Mark, send me your prefs.js and I'll look at it.
Comment 12•20 years ago
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(In reply to comment #10) > Created a new profile, and guess what. Everything works as expected Congraturations! I guess your answer to my (Q1) is (b). Mark, isn't it right? ;-)
Comment 13•20 years ago
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yes, I renamed Local Folders using UI, Q1-(b)
Comment 14•20 years ago
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Anybody know *WHY* filters for Local Folders are not applied automatically?
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Comment 15•19 years ago
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this patch makes it so if you get mail in a deferred account, we'll run both the filters for the deferred account and the deferred to account. So in the global inbox case, we'll run filters for the pop3 server/account, and then the local folders filters.
Assignee: mscott → bienvenu
Status: UNCONFIRMED → ASSIGNED
Attachment #176948 -
Flags: superreview?(mscott)
Updated•19 years ago
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Attachment #176948 -
Flags: superreview?(mscott) → superreview+
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Updated•19 years ago
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Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 19 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Component: Preferences → MailNews: Filters
OS: MacOS X → All
Product: Thunderbird → Core
Hardware: Macintosh → All
Version: unspecified → Trunk
Comment 16•19 years ago
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*** Bug 289680 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 17•19 years ago
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Cool. A code-level change. Too bad I'm not a coder <_<. Will this appear in a future version of Thunderbird? If so, what version? A few tips on UI design: "If there's a 'trick' to it, the UI is broken." --Douglas Anderson "It is a far better to adapt the technology to the user than to force the user to adapt to the technology." --Larry Marine Both quotes taken from "Software Engineering: A Practitioner's Approach" by Roger S. Pressman, Ph.D. - who himself has this tip: "Define interaction modes in a way that does not force a user into unnecessary or undesired actions" (page 326).
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Comment 18•19 years ago
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the fix will be in 1.1 - I can't tell if you're being ironic or not, but once you get 1.1, you won't have to do anything special - both sets of filters will run, for the default case, so it will be hard for the user to mess up :-)
Comment 19•19 years ago
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Thanks. I should clarify: I am a programmer in that I have the skills, but I do not have the tools or source code neccessary to compile Thunderbird on my computer.
Updated•16 years ago
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Product: Core → MailNews Core
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