33554 - Make the Readme visible from help after installation.

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(SeaMonkey :: General, defect)

Description

[varada]

Need to create Program Folder shortcuts for Readme/License Texts during the 
Seamonkey install.

Comment 1

[Cathleen]

set to m18

Comment 2

[Jimmy Lee]

Reassigning QA Contact to Grace for Installer issue.

Comment 3

[timeless]

grace, do we have such critters? I mentioned creating them in some other bug.

If this is for the commercial side, please move to bugscape.

Comment 4

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

Lack of shortcuts to the Readme or License file isn't going to stop us from 
Shipping PR3 so [nsbeta3-], but CC'ing PM folks for a second opinion.

Comment 5

[bmartin]

CCK no longer requires this.  Please see bugzilla bug 27020

Comment 6

[johng]

adding rtm to get on radar per Sean Su's email

Comment 7

[Todd Pringle]

Not a stop-ship, but would be good if we could get this in.  

Comment 8

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

I can't see the PDT approving this based on other P3 rejections. If this is a
strong requirement please have the PDT comment in this bug that they are open to
accepting this before I have Sean go off and waste time coming up with a patch.

Comment 9

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

Unsetting missed milestones to aid triage queries.

Comment 10

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

This can be a placeholder for "Desktop Integration". Talk to kmurray.

Comment 11

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

Moz 0.9 tasks

Comment 12

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

Should be easy for someone who wants to learn about install

Comment 13

[Syd Logan]

'-'ing

Comment 14

[Grace Bush]

adding ktrina as QA contact for subset of Installer bugs 
I will continue to monitor as well

Comment 15

[K'Trina Medina]

ccing Curt and Dave. This is not urgent, but in the comments it said this should
be easy for someone who wants to learn about install.

Comment 16

[Curt Patrick (gone)]

I'll take it.

Comment 17

[Curt Patrick (gone)]

I'm working on this now.  The license file makes plenty of sense, but I don't
even see a readme for the product anywhere.  It isn't checked in anywhere,
displayed by the installer, or installed  (that I can find).  What have we been
doing for a readme?  (Or am I hallucinating?)

Comment 18

[Curt Patrick (gone)]

Attachment: For license file only

Since I need to know a bit more about the readme before I can handle it (i.e.,
where is it going to be checked in and do we want to do more than just add an
icon for it) this patch if only for the license file, which already exists.  I
did add a variable for the readme so we'll be better prepared for it when I
know where it lives and such.

If this patch looks good I'll create another for the ns trunk also?

Comment 19

[Curt Patrick (gone)]

Better get someone on this list who knows what he is doing to keep me honest!

Comment 20

[Curt Patrick (gone)]

Gregg, Grace and I looked this over together.   The browser already displays the 
license file in Help|About.  A link to the release notes is available under 
Help|Help and Support Center.  I need to know if marketing is really wanting to 
do what this bug suggests since the license file is accessable already from the 
browser and the readme isn't even installed with the product currently.  And, if 
we're going to add these to the product folder, do we want to add a link to the 
release notes also?  These are probably as useful to have around as the readme.  
Gregg, let me know what you want.

Comment 21

[Gregg Landskov (gone)]

I don't think we should add a shortcut to the ReadMe.  Instead, I think it
should what http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115901 says;  Which is
allow a client page the ability to point to the flat file.  This bug should be
merged with 115901 or retired. 

Comment 22

[Curt Patrick (gone)]

Since 115901 deals with getting the readme installed, I'm changing the 
description of this bug to reflect the desire of the docs dept., making it 
dependant on 115901 and assigning it to Steve to update the Help/Help and 
Support Center to display the readme.

We are happy with the way the license file is being handled so no further action 
is required there.

Comment 23

[rudman]

I don't remember now what the Mozilla read me says (there is one, isn't there?).
In any case, the Netscape version will surely be different from the Mozilla one.
Access to the Mozilla version can't happen via the Help and Support Center,
since that is on the Netscape side only. But at least, if Mozilla really
wants/needs a Read Me, at least a user could search one's system for the file,
which Curt is exposing.

Reassigning to Jatin. 

Comment 24

[Jatin Billimoria]

Adding [e-mail] for discussion of Readme placement so that it's
accessible from the Help Menu Screen.

Comment 25

[rudman]

Jatin, I wasn't thinking that it should be accessible from the Help menu. It
should be a link (a relative one) from the Help and Support Center page, I
think. Unless you think otherwise. 

Comment 26

[Jatin Billimoria]

Yes, the Readme should be accessible from the Help and Support Center menu. I
didn't mean to imply that it should be on the Help drop-down.

Comment 27

[Grace Bush]

see bug 115901 for adding readme to start menu
will add attachment showing placement-
does this satisfy requirements for this bug?

Comment 28

[Curt Patrick (gone)]

I guess that I marked this bug fixed prematurely now that I reread the summary.
 On the other hand, I believe that my part is done so it should be reassigned to
someone else now?  Who?

Comment 29

[Jatin Billimoria]

For MachV, I'll be updating the Help and Support Center welcome page with a link
to the following URL, which is a link to the flat file:

resource:///readme.txt

Comment 30

[Jatin Billimoria]

I can't get the following URL to work as an HTML link:
resource:///readme.txt

Is there a workaround you know about?

Comment 31

[Jatin Billimoria]

The Read Me file can now be accessed from the Start Menu, making it now visible
after installation. I feel this reduces the need for the file to be accessible
from within the product as was originally proposed. Shall I resolve this bug as
fixed?

Comment 32

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

I don't think so, because we've got a bug to pull it back out of the Start Menu.

Comment 33

[rudman]

What's the bug to remove it from the Start menu? Why are we doing that? In any
case, the read me doesn't show up in the Start menu in commercial builds (using
build of 3/28).

I just checked a few other apps of the relatively few I have on my system
(recently wiped clean)... Acrobat, FrameMaker, and Winamp have read me files
directly accessible from the Start menu (though Winamp's is called "What's New,"
but it's a text file that is read me-ish).

Anyone have some idea why Jatin is having the problems he mentioned with
resource:///readme.txt?

Comment 34

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

un-signed HTML cannot access file: or resource: urls for security reasons
(cross-domain scripting exploints). I think we worked around this in the
commercial build by putting a copy of the readme and license into a chrome .jar

Comment 35

[Jatin Billimoria]

My earlier comment about the Read Me file being in the Start menu turns out to
be incorrect, as Steve mentioned.

Dan, although we now have a copy of the readme and license in a chrome .jar, how
do we link to it from the Help? The About: Page seems to be able to link to the
license. How is that done, and can we replicate that in the Help and Support
Center main menu?

Comment 36

[Curt Patrick (gone)]

Jatin, have you tried using:
jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/readme.txt
That is the equivalent to what the license link is doing.

Comment 37

[Jatin Billimoria]

That seems to work with an added target="_blank" statement. Thanks much Curt!
Reassigning bug to Sean Cotter <[e-mail]>, who is helping with the
Help and Support Center links.

Sean, the link should use the following HTML with "Read Me Title" being a
variable to be replaced with the appropriate Read Me title:

<a href="jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/readme.txt"
target="_blank">Read Me Title</a>

Comment 38

[rudman]

Resetting milestone.

Comment 39

[Brant Gurganus]

Is this bug for Netscape or Mozilla?  Is it still live?

If it is still live, then we just need to make sure both Netscape and Mozilla
put the readme's in the same spot and it can be linked from the Help menu I think.

Comment 40

[Brant Gurganus]

This is likely a cross-platform issue.

Comment 41

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

The initial description specifically says "Program Folder shortcuts" (I
personally have no opinion, there are reasons for both: you might need the
readme when the app fails to start, but cluttering up the start menu for stuff
that is almost never used is not great either), which would be platform specifc.

Comment 42

[Daniel Wang]

do we really need this bug? Currently ReadMe only talks about where to download
Mozilla and how to install it, so there's really no need to read it after
installation.

Comment 43

[R.J. Keller]

Why is this bug in the Help component? This bug has nothing to do with the
Mozilla Help Viewer.

Daniel: Can you move this to a more appropriate component? Thanks!

Comment 44

[R.J. Keller]

-> Doc: User

More appropriate than browser: help :)

Comment 45

[Stefan [:stefanh]]

Actually, I don't think we want this for help. On mac, the readme is visible from the dmg window.

Comment 46

[Robert Kaiser]

We won't fix this the way described here, but we may want to include the new about:rights work done for Firefox that makes the license stuff easily available to people on a first start.