Closed Bug 1007009 Opened 10 years ago Closed 10 years ago

Remove Christian Legnitto from planet.mozilla.org blogroll

Categories

(Websites :: planet.mozilla.org, defect)

Product:
Websites
Component:
planet.mozilla.org
Platform:
x86_64
Windows 8.1
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED INVALID

People

(Reporter: gcp, Unassigned)

Details

"Second, Mozilla’s current setup is very developer-hostile"
I would quit if I was forced to work on Firefox code all day
"I think I’ve been spoiled at Facebook as we invest heavily in speeding up the development workflow (we’re hiring!)."
"Please enjoy the best feature Mozilla has shipped since Firefox 1.0"

These aren't constructive comments from a community member. It's a pure, insulting and hurtful slam that's also a recruiting post for Facebook.
I don't think we should remove Christian from pmo because of that post.  The tone of the post was humorous/sarcastic, and we should not remove people's voices from planet because they have things to say that hurts.  A lot of his tongue-in-cheek comments are actually right on (perhaps with the exception of CI.)  If you feel strongly about this, it would be way more constructive to help make those pain points better.
>we should not remove people's voices from planet because they have things to say that hurts

Oh, I agree on that one. 

I filed this because of the impression that it was combining non-constructive criticism with trying to draw potential contributors and employees away to a competitor. Which is something else entirely.

That said, reading: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Planet_Mozilla#Being_removed_from_Planet_Mozilla
you can do much worse things and it'd still not be a reason for delisting.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
(I agree that it's not helpful to Mozilla for Christian to post facebook recruiting pitches on planet, but I would also oppose his being removed from planet for a first infraction if, indeed, an infraction it is. He's still a member of the community, and often a non-shitty one. <3)
Haha, oh man. Yeah, the post was meant to be humorous, over-the-top, and tongue-in-cheek :-) Clearly this little patch could barely be called a feature haha. I was also coming off a sugar high from bottomless mimosas, as one tends to do on beautiful SF Sundays.

I have specific constructive ideas I have expressed to Mozillians offline, twitter, and am writing up more. The first step is identifying and agreeing there is a problem, and ex-mozilla employees who are still Mozillians are probably the only people qualified to express a lot of those insights.
I also don't see FB as a competitor, and if Mozillians do that's a huge problem.
You don't think you compete for talent with us in the Bay Area?
There's doubtless some competition, but eh.  Mozilla is not defined by employment, or employee.  Or at least that's what everyone tries to argue, usually.  :-)

(I don't think it crossed a line either, not that it matters.  Everyone grouches about code they work on from time to time.  :-)  And clearly the tone was a bit of an affectation/over the top and all.)
(In reply to christian from comment #4)
> I have specific constructive ideas I have expressed to Mozillians offline,
> twitter, and am writing up more. The first step is identifying and agreeing
> there is a problem, and ex-mozilla employees who are still Mozillians are
> probably the only people qualified to express a lot of those insights.

I'm *very* interested to hear your thoughts Christian, if they're documented somewhere (or if you're willing to send them my way. :-)  Fixing developer ergonomics issues is one of the things I really care about.

(In reply to christian from comment #5)
> I also don't see FB as a competitor, and if Mozillians do that's a huge
> problem.

I don't.  And I personally like our actual competitors (other browser vendors).  My life would be very boring if we didn't have any competitors!
There is a long tradition on Planet of both (much more explicit and earnest) mentions of job openings, and bitching about developer ergonomics. I don't think Christian's post was really an outlier in either of those areas, and I don't think it's hard to find other examples from MoCo itself. It certainly wasn't when I was active; I generated some of my own, I'm pretty sure, to no objection.
FWIW, I found the Facebook spruiking distasteful and inappropriate. The rest of the post wasn't so bad.
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