1092510 - Localization of video subtitle for Firefox 10th Anniversary

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: Other, defect)

Description

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

This bug will be used to track subtitles localization for Firefox 10 years.

IMPORTANT: both URLs (YouTube, Amara) and script MUST remain as private as possible, we don't want to spoil the surprise before that date.
That's why this bug is marked as private, and will be accessible only to people CCed to it.

If you need someone from your team to review the work, don't use public forums or mailing lists, use direct emails or CC them to this bug. The fewer people know about this, the bigger the surprise ;-)

Deadline: November 9
Video will be used on November 10, but we need time to upload subtitles. Keep in mind that we'll accept updates or new localizations after that date.

This is NOT the final version of the video, it's a first draft we obtained to give localizers more time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCaUISIrxus

Project is available on Amara for localization
http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/url/1311055/

You can localize it there, or localize the attached .srt file and attach your localization to this bug. Choose what works best for you.

NOTE: not sure if this will be fixed with time, but I'm currently unable to see the video with Firefox. Sadly Chrome works. Just FYI in case the video is stuck on loading for you too.

How to work on Amara:
* Go to http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/url/1311055/
* Click on "Add a new language" on the left. If you don't see your language, it's because someone already added it.
* You'll find yourself into the Editor. First translate the strings in the central column (yellow background). On the right you'll see useful notes, for example to use line breaks for strings longer than 43 characters (use SHIFT+ENTER) or if the string is too long for the available timeslot. You can press TAB or use video controls on top to check your localization.
* When you are happy with the results, click on the button "Yes, start syncing" on the top right, you'll be able to drag the subtitles and make them longer.
* When you're done, click "Publish". You'll go back to the first page, your language should have a green dot on the left.

If you want you can upload a .srt file by clicking the link "Upload them directly".

Comment 1

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: en_US_original.srt

en-US (rev2) currently available on Amara.

Comment 2

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: en_US_stretched.srt

en-US subtitles with longer time for subtitles (used Italian as a base, which should give you about a +30%).

Comment 3

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: it.srt

Italian (it) localization.

Comment 4

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Note: for de and pt-BR we already have a localized script/video.

Comment 5

[Théo Chevalier]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #4)
> Note: for de and pt-BR we already have a localized script/video.

You should have it for French as well ;) But I can add our script as subtitles as well

Comment 6

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Théo Chevalier [:tchevalier] from comment #5)
> You should have it for French as well ;) But I can add our script as
> subtitles as well

I honestly thought so, but I never saw the email for French, only German and Portuguese.
At this point no need to add French to this one, you'll have a proper video ;-)

Comment 7

[Mikael Hiort af Ornäs]

Attachment: sv-SE.srt

Added translation for sv-SE. May be altered depending on how it looks in the actual video.

Mikael

Comment 8

[Mikael Hiort af Ornäs]

Attachment: sv-SE.srt

Final sv-SE version for the non-final video :)

That Amara website is very nice for staging localized content.

Mikael

Comment 9

[A S Alam]

Attachment: Edit v10A New VO and Music.pan.srt

Punjabi Translation added. 
Note: Amara has no Punjabi language (pa), but Eastern Punjabi (pan),it may need to map if need to use with YouTube.

Comment 10

[Wim]

Both Dutch and Frisian are localized on Amara.

Comment 11

[Mikael Hiort af Ornäs]

Attachment: sv-SE.srt

The centered text is annoying.

Re-aligned the Swedish text to be a bit more readable.

Mikael

Comment 12

[Besnik Bleta]

Attachment: Subtitles in Albanian

I've submitted them to Amara too.

Comment 13

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: it.srt

Updated Italian.

Liz, are you going to add subtitles to YouTube when the video is ready?
Do you need the file attached here or having it on Amara is enough?

Comment 14

[Mikael Hiort af Ornäs]

Attachment: la.srt

Added Latin subtitles. Needed the training.

Mikael

Comment 15

[Mikael Hiort af Ornäs]

Attachment: la.srt

Correction per Francesco's notes.

Micke

Comment 16

[ivarela]

Attachment: ast.srt - Asturian subtitles

Here's 'ast.srt' Asturian subtitle file. I've also upload it to Amara

Comment 17

[Ibai Oihanguren]

I've translated the video to Basque (eu) on Amara.

Comment 18

[Hyeonseok Shin]

I've translated Korean subtitle on Amara.

Comment 19

[Gabor Kelemen]

Hungarian is done on Amara.

Comment 20

[Inma Barrios]

Spanish (es-ES) is done too!

Comment 21

[Liz Hull]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #13)
> Created attachment 8515604 [details]
> it.srt
> 
> Updated Italian.
> 
> Liz, are you going to add subtitles to YouTube when the video is ready?
> Do you need the file attached here or having it on Amara is enough?

Yep! I'll add the subtitles to YouTube when we have the final HD version uploaded. I can download the .srt files from the transcripts in Amara, so there's no need to add them in the bug if they're already on Amara. Thanks so much!

Comment 22

[Iosif Psychas [:TheGallery]]

Greek translation added in Amara.

Comment 23

[Guillermo Movia [:deimidis]]

es-AR added to Amara

Comment 24

[Aleksandra Uzelac]

I've translated Serbian-Latin on Amara.

Also, while translating, I noticed a typo in English:
> 0:18 - 0:21 to create an internet experience that's owned by eveyone

I don't know if it's just on Amara but I wanted to point that out in case it isn't.

Comment 25

[Liz Hull]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #6)
> (In reply to Théo Chevalier [:tchevalier] from comment #5)
> > You should have it for French as well ;) But I can add our script as
> > subtitles as well
> 
> I honestly thought so, but I never saw the email for French, only German and
> Portuguese.
> At this point no need to add French to this one, you'll have a proper video
> ;-)

We do have localized videos for DE, PT, and FR, but would love to have subtitles for accessibility!

Comment 26

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Liz Hull from comment #25)
> We do have localized videos for DE, PT, and FR, but would love to have
> subtitles for accessibility!

For this video or the localized videos? Because in that case you already have the original script, right?

Comment 27

[Liz Hull]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #26)
> (In reply to Liz Hull from comment #25)
> > We do have localized videos for DE, PT, and FR, but would love to have
> > subtitles for accessibility!
> 
> For this video or the localized videos? Because in that case you already
> have the original script, right?

I do have the scripts in google docs, I just need them timestamped/in .srt files to have them sync up with the video. Do you have the DE PT and FR scripts? I can share them with you if not!

Comment 28

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Liz Hull from comment #27)
> I do have the scripts in google docs, I just need them timestamped/in .srt
> files to have them sync up with the video. Do you have the DE PT and FR
> scripts? I can share them with you if not!

Better if you re-send them (I should have a couple), but we also need the videos on Amara for syncing.
Once videos and subtitles are available, I can do a first sync and then ask localizers to review.

Comment 29

[lasr21]

Attachment: es-mx.srt

Es-MX done in Amara.

Comment 30

[Mikael Hiort af Ornäs]

The automatic subtitling function on YouTube is hilarious. Recommended for use by us, for reasons of health and sanity (a good laugh prolongs life, as we say in Sweden), but it should really be disabled for the video.

Micke

Comment 31

[Richard von Moltke Necochea]

Attachment: es_CL.srt, reviewed by "Saeed"

Chilean way localization (es-CL).

Comment 32

[Jørgen Rasmussen]

Attachment: da.srt

Danish subtitles added. da.srt

Comment 33

[Liz Hull]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #28)
> (In reply to Liz Hull from comment #27)
> > I do have the scripts in google docs, I just need them timestamped/in .srt
> > files to have them sync up with the video. Do you have the DE PT and FR
> > scripts? I can share them with you if not!
> 
> Better if you re-send them (I should have a couple), but we also need the
> videos on Amara for syncing.
> Once videos and subtitles are available, I can do a first sync and then ask
> localizers to review.

Good point. We can sync these to the English VO version for now, since I'm not sure when we'll get the localized VO versions of it. Here are the scripts:

German: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g6QWK87WzIcxz0UNtwLUkddQf0JwXNTDt2pfFRGo4p4/edit?usp=sharing
PT-BR: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uu_DUhlWTM0gZD4gH71gknGnQh6oQWxEK42EswDjwA4/edit?usp=sharing
French: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZFM-Ig4jKZvXbI3UnDGl67f62ZEtD6k1SAYj6mBRixU/edit?usp=sharing

Comment 34

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Aleksandra Uzelac from comment #24)
> I don't know if it's just on Amara but I wanted to point that out in case it
> isn't.

Not sure if the Amara's one will be used for English, but fixed anyway. Thanks for reporting it :-)

Comment 35

[Michael Köhler [:Coce]]

Attachment: German (de) subtitles

Comment 36

[Marcelo Araldi]

Brazilian portuguese subtitles created on Amara :)

http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/pt-br/841706/

Comment 37

[Selim Şumlu]

Attachment: Turkish subtitles

Turkish subtitles are based on stretched timing. Also uploaded to Amara.

Comment 38

[Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:mstanke][:MikkCZ]]

Czech subtitles should be ready on Amara.

Comment 39

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Russian subtitles is ready on Amara.

Comment 40

[Vlado Valastiak [:wladow]]

Attachment: Slovak (sk) subtitles

Comment 41

[Théo Chevalier]

French subtitles ready on Amara. http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/fr/841959/

Comment 42

[dynamis (Tomoya ASAI)]

Japanese subtitles ready on Amara:
http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/ja/840521/

Comment 43

[Zibi Braniecki [:zbraniecki][:gandalf]]

Polish subtitles ready on Amara:
http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/pl/842311/

p.s. Amara is so awesome

Comment 44

[Aki Laaksovirta]

Finnish subtitles can now be found on Amara:
http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/fi/841174/

Comment 45

[Gion-Andri Cantieni [:gion-andri]]

Romansh (rm) subtitles can now be found on Amara: 
http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/rm/840343/

Comment 46

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Liz, I noticed that we have some subtitles attached here but not on Amara. 

I added da, de, sk, but I couldn't add es-CL (not available on Amara).

Comment 47

[Biraj Karmakar [:biraj]]

I have finished for Bengali. but last two there lines are mismatched with subtitles. I can't fixed it up. Please take a look @flod

Comment 48

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Should be fixed now.

Comment 49

[Eduardo Trápani]

Attachment: Esperanto (eo) subtitles

Comment 50

[Rhoslyn Prys]

Welsh subtitles completed on Amara.

Comment 51

[rodin]

Indonesian (id) subtitle completed on Amara.

Comment 52

[Matjaz Horvat [:mathjazz]]

Slovenian (sl) subtitles completed on Amara:
http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/sl/838982/

Comment 53

[Tomer Cohen :tomer]

Hebrew is published on Amara. 
http://www.amara.org/he/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/he/843468/

Comment 54

[Hrant Ohanyan]

Attachment: Armenian (hy-AM) subtitles.

Armenian (hy-AM) subtitles.

Comment 55

[Enrique Estévez Fernández]

Attachment: Firefox_10th_Anniversary_gl.srt

Galician (gl) subtitles can now be found on Amara: 
http://www.amara.org/en/videos/l6xdzNszDJY7/gl/843516/

Comment 56

[Eduardo Trápani]

Attachment: Esperanto (eo) subtitles

Reviziita de Michael Moroni

Comment 57

[Selim Şumlu]

Attachment: Turkish (tr) subtitles (revised)

Comment 58

[Liz Hull]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #46)
> Liz, I noticed that we have some subtitles attached here but not on Amara. 
> 
> I added da, de, sk, but I couldn't add es-CL (not available on Amara).

Ah, thanks so much for the flag!

Comment 59

[Rajesh Ranjan]

Attachment: hi-IN_stretched.srt

Attachinh hi-IN content.

Comment 60

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

I'm fixing hi-IN and uploading to Amara (original strings shouldn't be in the .srt file). 

For others: if you add a new localization, please upload it on Amara and check that everything works expected. No need to attach it to the bug too.

Comment 61

[u444744]

Attachment: Bengali (bn-BD ).srt

Updated Bengali (bn-BD ) in Amara and .srt is here

Comment 62

[Akmal]

Uzbek is ready!

Comment 63

[JM Gailis [:jm-gailis]]

Latvian (lv) is translated and available on Amara.

Comment 64

[Ton [:Tonnes]]

New revision (4) added for Dutch (typos and markup changes).

Comment 65

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to A S Alam from comment #9)
> Created attachment 8515472 [details]
> Edit v10A New VO and Music.pan.srt
> 
> Punjabi Translation added. 
> Note: Amara has no Punjabi language (pa), but Eastern Punjabi (pan),it may
> need to map if need to use with YouTube.

Liz, did you manage to load Punjabi? I don't see it in the list

Comment 66

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Besides Punjabi missing, looks like Bengali and Dutch (see comment above) need to be updated on YT.

Comment 67

[Odin Mojica]

flod, when I can share this video to users? I want to make a post and publish it.

Comment 68

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

You're free to share it, you can also share mozilla.org's homepage directly
https://www.mozilla.org/es-MX/

Comment 69

[Odin Mojica]

wooooow o/

Comment 70

[Rhoslyn Prys]

The subtitles for https://www.mozilla.org/cy/firefox/independent/ are in English. Is there anything else I need to do?

Comment 71

[Mikael Hiort af Ornäs]

(In reply to Rhoslyn Prys from comment #70)
> The subtitles for https://www.mozilla.org/cy/firefox/independent/ are in
> English. Is there anything else I need to do?

It seems that the subtitling language for the video doesn't adapt to the language code in the URL, but rather to the Firefox language version one is using. For me, for example, the Cymric page show Swedish subtitles, and I am on a sv-SE Firefox edition.

/Mikael

Comment 72

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

You should see the locale of your Google account if you're logged in, or the locale based on the accept language headers sent by your browser. Apparently YT fails with quite a few locales (fy-NL, rm so far).

It's not great to not have full control over this, but the only alternative would be to have our own subtitle system.

Comment 73

[JM Gailis [:jm-gailis]]

Hi,
Latvian subtitles aren't available on YT.
Could you solve it?

Comment 74

[Winston Bowden]

(In reply to Jānis Marks Gailis - Jean-Marc Gailis [:jm-gailis] from comment #73)
> Hi,
> Latvian subtitles aren't available on YT.
> Could you solve it?

This should be updated on Youtube.

Comment 75

[Winston Bowden]

(In reply to Ton from comment #64)
> New revision (4) added for Dutch (typos and markup changes).

Just uploaded to Youtube.  Can you confirm your edits are now present?

Comment 76

[JM Gailis [:jm-gailis]]

(In reply to Winston Bowden from comment #74)
> This should be updated on Youtube.
Fully working, thanks!

Comment 77

[Ton [:Tonnes]]

(In reply to Winston Bowden from comment #75)
> 
> Just uploaded to Youtube.  Can you confirm your edits are now present?

They are, thanks!

Comment 78

[Rhoslyn Prys]

I've logged in to Google and checked the locale to Welsh/United Kingdom and checked the Settings/Content/Language is set to cy-GB and Cymraeg above English in Firefox. I've tried on Firefox 33.1 and Developer Edition on different computers but no change. It doesnt work in IE or Chrome, either ;-)
Maybe this is a YT fail as well...

Comment 79

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Rhoslyn Prys from comment #78)
> I've logged in to Google and checked the locale to Welsh/United Kingdom and
> checked the Settings/Content/Language is set to cy-GB and Cymraeg above
> English in Firefox. I've tried on Firefox 33.1 and Developer Edition on
> different computers but no change. It doesnt work in IE or Chrome, either ;-)
> Maybe this is a YT fail as well...

I think we found a solution: when you load mozilla.org/cy, pass the locale to Youtube (as cc_lang_pref) and force loading subtitles for 'cy'. The downside is that you get en-US instead of a better fallback if the requested locale is missing, but considering that we have 43 locales it shouldn't be an issue.

Fix is already available on the test server, not sure when it will be pushed to prod
https://www-dev.allizom.org/cy/

Comment 80

[Cláudio Esperança [:cesperanc@]]

pt-PT ready on amara.

Thank you

Comment 81

[Guillermo Movia [:deimidis]]

Hi Flod, I always see the es-ES subtitles and not es-AR (with a Firefox es-AR). Is this a bug?

Comment 82

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

I'm not sure: on YouTube there's no "es-AR", there's a "Spanish Latin American" but it doesn't look like the subtitles are loaded (i.e. I don't see it when I try to change locale in video's settings).

NI Winston also to make sure that we load pt-PT.

Comment 83

[ivarela]

The same for Asturian (code 'ast').
https://www.mozilla.org/ast/

I think that Youtube only enables some codes like xx_YY  (lang_COUNTRY). Asturian is xxx_YY , so languages with 3 letters code are out of Youtube

I thought the video was to be seen through Amara..

:(

Comment 84

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

It actually looks like YouTube doesn't have Asturian at all :-\

That's really annoying, it's the fourth locale we found out as unsupported
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/youtube/report-a-technical-issue/8DX1uHTTAoE

If we have any sort of contacts in YouTube, can we get at least some visibility on this issue?

Comment 85

[ivarela]

Yes, of course. Any help is welcome in this issue.

Comment 86

[ivarela]

... and i supposse that is very easy for Youtube/Google to add support for ISO 639-2 Languages codes. I don't understand the reason because they don't enable it.

We are living in yeat 2014, not 1994..

Comment 87

[Winston Bowden]

Adding Liz to help with loading pt-pt

Comment 88

[Liz Hull]

pt-pt added. Thanks so much everyone!

Comment 89

[Michael Wolf]

hsb and dsb added on Amara. Thank you for enabling these languages!

Comment 90

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

I guess it's time to close this one.